how can someone do this ?
27-06-2005, 23:17
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Re: how can someone do this ?
Lets hope she is found and her and her parents ( if that be the case ) get help.
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27-06-2005, 23:20
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Re: how can someone do this ?
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Originally Posted by Saxodriver
Ramrod consider this scenario..............
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She could have left the baby in the hospital car park/next to A&E...........
Oh I don't hate her.......far from it. I feel pity for the silly/confused/thoughtless/drugged up/whatever girl.............. and I am even more sad for the poor child who has such a mother 
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27-06-2005, 23:22
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Depends on how far the hospital is from her house?
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27-06-2005, 23:30
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Originally Posted by scastle
Ramrod, aren't you being a bit quick to judge?
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I am aware of the possibilities of what is probably happening in the background but in the final analysis the mother has abandoned a newborn baby, her baby, under a bush rather than taking it to somewhere it's survival could be guaranteed.
I don't care how confused, distraught or stupid the mother is......it's just unforgivable........... |
You are looking at it as a black and white situation. There could be any one of a number of things that caused the woman to abandon her baby. I am not defending her actions at all, but I do not believe any of us has enough information to judge.
For instance, I believe that in extreme cases of Post Natal Depression, it's entirely possible for women to have babies and be totally unable to accept they have babies. Maybe this woman is suffering from this?
As I said, you appear to see it as a black and white situation. Unfortunately, it is not. It has many shades of grey..
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27-06-2005, 23:35
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Re: how can someone do this ?
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Depends on how far the hospital is from her house?
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You are looking at it as a black and white situation. There could be any one of a number of things that caused the woman to abandon her baby. I am not defending her actions at all, but I do not believe any of us has enough information to judge.
For instance, I believe that in extreme cases of Post Natal Depression, it's entirely possible for women to have babies and be totally unable to accept they have babies. Maybe this woman is suffering from this?
As I said, you appear to see it as a black and white situation. Unfortunately, it is not. It has many shades of grey..
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I know it has many shades of grey. I know she is confused. I know she is probably stressed. I know that she needs help. I know that she may be being pressured. All that may or may not be happening behind the scenes in her life does not excuse the way she did what she did.
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28-06-2005, 00:23
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Thats awful. Im glad the baby is OK.
I dont know how people can leave a new born like that....anything could have happened.
That part of the city is well known for being "dodgy" so it doesnt suprise me that this kind of thing is going on there.
A life is precious and leaving a baby like that is just evil.
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28-06-2005, 00:23
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Ramrod consider the possiblity she gave birth alone in a alley way scared out of her mind, and not thinking straight.
Nothing excuses her from what she did, I bet if she did dump it at A/E people would complain about her getting pregnant.
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28-06-2005, 00:46
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
She could have left the baby in the hospital car park/next to A&E...........
Oh I don't hate her.......far from it. I feel pity for the silly/confused/thoughtless/drugged up/whatever girl.............. and I am even more sad for the poor child who has such a mother |
i feel badly for the mother of child too but i cant seem to feel any sympathy at all, yes we dont know the full facnts but under a bush! thats what gets to me the most, in society we should treat humans respectfully and to just dump a newborn ina bush id down right distastful and practically as you said unforgiveable.
i wonder if the father would like to know about the baby or does....
although i have seen what cases of post-natal depression can do, however i dont believe in this case it was related, the cases i have seen were related to women who had their children and didnt dump them but felt numb and unhappy, threatening to hard their babies or have negligent thoughts.
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28-06-2005, 00:51
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Although everyone is saying we should find the mother...... ok lets make sure she is OK, but surely you would not want to give her the baby back would you ?
Unless she was forced to put the baby there she is in no fit state to care for a baby.
May be after counseling and treatment but not now.
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28-06-2005, 00:55
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Although everyone is saying we should find the mother...... ok lets make sure she is OK, but surely you would not want to give her the baby back would you ?
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no i would not if i was social services.
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Unless she was forced to put the baby there she is in no fit state to care for a baby.
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we dont know the ins and outs.
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May be after counseling and treatment but not now.
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ima ll too wary but unless there were mitigating circumstances i cant see why she should have the baby back.
i cant see forgivness in dumping a baby there just like that.
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28-06-2005, 01:05
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Perhaps they will call it Moses.
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28-06-2005, 02:16
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I know it is important to try to help the mother to learn to accept her child and care for it, but it depends on the care the child will get and the life it will grow up to have.
As Kronas says, we dont know the full story as to why she left the baby there. If the mother was young or the dad had left her on her own, she may not be aware that help is available.
Still, it is chance that the baby was found and the outcome could have been a lot worse. Lets hope the baby has a better life ahead.
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28-06-2005, 02:57
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Still, it is chance that the baby was found and the outcome could have been a lot worse. Lets hope the baby has a better life ahead.
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how is it ? if the women who gave birth or father cannot be found that child is going to grow up with non-biological parents, i think psycologically for the child it will be bad when that child grows up and finds out (maybe does) that the parents are not his/hers real parents i would like to know if i was in that position, you need your own biological mother in your life.
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28-06-2005, 04:55
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how is it ? if the women who gave birth or father cannot be found that child is going to grow up with non-biological parents, i think psycologically for the child it will be bad when that child grows up and finds out (maybe does) that the parents are not his/hers real parents i would like to know if i was in that position, you need your own biological mother in your life.
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I think the baby will get all the love in the world with or without it's biological mother, you have to look out there or have people in your family who can't have children, this child will be placed in a loving home by Social Services, in a home where the child will be bought up with stability by loving parents.
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28-06-2005, 08:19
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Re: how can someone do this ?
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Ramrod consider the possiblity she gave birth alone in a alley way scared out of her mind, and not thinking straight.
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I have considered it.
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Nothing excuses her from what she did
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Well said!  
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