Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS - Page 10

05-06-2005, 13:52

Mr_love_monkey · 05-06-2005, 21:52

I was just thinking... in 'The Empire Strikes Back' - Obi says of Luke as he's leaving Yoda something along the lines of 'That boys our last hope' and yoda says 'no, there is another'... surely Obi should have known this as well....

Maybe I'm just being too picky

Mal · 05-06-2005, 22:14

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Originally Posted by Paul

New Directors cut released

I like the Darth's orchestra at the end

Xaccers · 06-06-2005, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

I was just thinking... in 'The Empire Strikes Back' - Obi says of Luke as he's leaving Yoda something along the lines of 'That boys our last hope' and yoda says 'no, there is another'... surely Obi should have known this as well....

Maybe I'm just being too picky

Factor in Lucas and it all makes sense.
He's crap at telling stories.
With a new hope the studios were watching him and many other people contributed as his friends to make it into a better movie than he would have done if left alone.
Empire strikes back and return of the jedi (remember, lucas wanted to call it revenge of the jedi clearly showing he knew nothing about the jedi) were both directed by proper directors, hence why they were so good.

Tezcatlipoca · 06-06-2005, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Factor in Lucas and it all makes sense.
He's crap at telling stories.
With a new hope the studios were watching him and many other people contributed as his friends to make it into a better movie than he would have done if left alone.
Empire strikes back and return of the jedi (remember, lucas wanted to call it revenge of the jedi clearly showing he knew nothing about the jedi) were both directed by proper directors, hence why they were so good.

I always thought "Revenge of the Jedi" was a deliberately leaked fake name, before "Return.." was revealed?

But, yeah, Marquand & Kershner did a better job with ESB & ROTJ than Lucas did with ANH.

dilli-theclaw · 11-06-2005, 08:23

I got the book this morning - which I have delibrately wated before buying - I wonder how much of it will be same as the film.

11-06-2005, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

I was just thinking... in 'The Empire Strikes Back' - Obi says of Luke as he's leaving Yoda something along the lines of 'That boys our last hope' and yoda says 'no, there is another'... surely Obi should have known this as well....

Maybe I'm just being too picky

maybe just maybe yoda was not talking about leia

What if yoda had forseen the good inside vader and seen that maybe he was capable of turning back,so maybe the other hope was Anakin and not leia
Didnt yoda say in rotj that luke had to face vader again before he was a jedi,He didnt say he had to kill vader did he?

Afterall Anakin was the chosen one he did destroy the sith -although he went the long way around it- but the prophecy was correct all along

Mr_love_monkey · 11-06-2005, 09:10

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

maybe just maybe yoda was not talking about leia

What if yoda had forseen the good inside vader and seen that maybe he was capable of turning back,so maybe the other hope was Anakin and not leia
Didnt yoda say in rotj that luke had to face vader again before he was a jedi,He didnt say he had to kill vader did he?

Afterall Anakin was the chosen one he did destroy the sith -although he went the long way around it- but the prophecy was correct all along

Little bit flimsy, don't you think?
woulddn't he have just said 'Good in Vader, there still is...' since luke had been saying the same thing (if i remember correctly...)

11-06-2005, 09:15

Yeah but I think its all about perspective,I like to look at it all as a whole,Yoda could just has easily said Sister He has couldnt he but he didnt say that either.
He could have said Vader Emperor Will kill and saved us the time to watch the film

Im choosing to see it all as a whole and if there are plot holes Im filling them in myself and am quite happy with that

Stephen · 11-06-2005, 09:24

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

I got the book this morning - which I have delibrately wated before buying - I wonder how much of it will be same as the film.

I got the book as soon as it was released and read it twice before seeing the film. The majority of the book is the same but there are a couple of chapters/scenes that are in the book and not in the film and also some of the scenes are expanded upon in the book. I will just mention Qui Gon as an example.

The other prequal books are the same if you have read them, EP1 had a a chapter all about someone out in the desert hiding or being captured by the sand people, has been a while since I read it so might not be acurate.

Lew · 11-06-2005, 12:50

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

maybe just maybe yoda was not talking about leia

What if yoda had forseen the good inside vader and seen that maybe he was capable of turning back,so maybe the other hope was Anakin and not leia
Didnt yoda say in rotj that luke had to face vader again before he was a jedi,He didnt say he had to kill vader did he?

Afterall Anakin was the chosen one he did destroy the sith -although he went the long way around it- but the prophecy was correct all along

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Originally Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi

The other he spoke of was your twin sister.