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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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And I totally understand that. Hence me saying:
"I define it as "crap""
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My point, subtly put, was what's crap to you, may by the bee's knees to someone else and vice versa. It is not necessarily crap, it's just that you do not like that genre. 
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I was partial to a bit of grebo in the past 
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I just could not get into the wonder stuff and carter usm. I didn't like them.
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03-06-2005, 00:22
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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My point, subtly put, was what's crap to you, may by the bee's knees to someone else and vice versa. It is not necessarily crap, it's just that you do not like that genre. 
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I just could not get into the wonder stuff and carter usm. I didn't like them.
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I liked Sheriff Fatman by CUSM. Pop Will Eat Itself were cool. Lemmy of course is the head Grebo
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03-06-2005, 00:24
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I liked Sheriff Fatman by CUSM. Pop Will Eat Itself were cool. Lemmy of course is the head Grebo 
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What was the size of a cow though?
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03-06-2005, 00:36
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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Originally Posted by nffc
And I totally understand that. Hence me saying:
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My point, subtly put, was what's crap to you, may by the bee's knees to someone else and vice versa. It is not necessarily crap, it's just that you do not like that genre. 
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Yer I know. Why are we even bothering arguing about it when we agree
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03-06-2005, 13:25
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
I remember indie *sigh* , they still have an indie night at a nightclub near me, tis great, playing all those bands that dont exist anymore  Still fun though
Indie is refered to the label, but it kinda evolved into a sound too, some people would say that oasis, blur, pulp and all those were the height of indie, but its hard to say. Kaiser Cheifs i would say are indie, but its all down to who you ask.
Pop is popular music, but you could also say that now has a defined sound, like kylie and all those kind of people.
Rock is rock man \m/
I think as far as coldplay are concerned they were indie but have now moved on to other things.
As for emo...i have nothing to say, it leaves me speachless and slightly ill
Theres so many genres now, it confusses me, a friend of mine is a little emo kid, bwess her. She tells me of emo hardcore screamo, and other random made up words put together that are meant to be something...maybe im getting to old and losing touch with the kids of today, haha!
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03-06-2005, 13:29
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
I thought that was some sort of fetish...!
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03-06-2005, 13:46
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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While a lot of music is easy to define (Rap for example) I do not really know how to define Rock
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-Lots of Guitars, heavy sound.
- actaully and abbreviation for 'popular music', so technically whatever's happening at the time.
- short for 'independant label'. Lots of bands with the same kind of sounds were on these smaller labels, hence the tag 'indie music'. Stereophonics are on an indie label, but you wouldn't call them 'indie' music.
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Urban (easy when you hear it, but how would you define it?)
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New style of r'n'b, garage, drum and bass etc etc.
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How do songs get sorted into these sections? Coldplay were indie, then rock but now i hear them defined as pop. Is pop just popular rock?
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Coldplay are on EMIs label, therefore not 'Indie'. They're basically pop - popular music.
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03-06-2005, 21:18
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I thought that was some sort of fetish...! 
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You've really got to leave your work, at work you know
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04-06-2005, 00:21
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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I thought that was some sort of fetish...! 
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You've really got to leave your work, at work you know 
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Problem is, I work from home...!!
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04-06-2005, 00:45
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Stereophonics are on an indie label, but you wouldn't call them 'indie' music.
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i would. but then my knowledge of genres is generally based around 'punk', 'ska', 'metal' or 'other'
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04-06-2005, 00:51
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i would. but then my knowledge of genres is generally based around 'punk', 'ska', 'metal' or 'other' 
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I wouldn't call them Indie either, not in the style of music the term "indie" has become. Pop-rock maybe 
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04-06-2005, 00:52
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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I wouldn't call them Indie either, not in the style of music the term "indie" has become. Pop-rock maybe 
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i suppose i consider indie to be what i would imagine a stereotypical 'indie-kid' would listen to, rghtly or wrongly...
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04-06-2005, 00:58
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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i suppose i consider indie to be what i would imagine a stereotypical 'indie-kid' would listen to, rghtly or wrongly...
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I'm an "indie-kid", but of the late '80's/early '90's. A lot of what people call indie now, is, to me, just a re-hash of earlier stuff.
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04-06-2005, 09:09
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
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-Lots of Guitars, heavy sound.
- actaully and abbreviation for 'popular music', so technically whatever's happening at the time.
- short for 'independant label'. Lots of bands with the same kind of sounds were on these smaller labels, hence the tag 'indie music'. Stereophonics are on an indie label, but you wouldn't call them 'indie' music.
New style of r'n'b, garage, drum and bass etc etc.
Coldplay are on EMIs label, therefore not 'Indie'. They're basically pop - popular music. 
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But Pop music is usually applied to the easy and cheap style of music (i.e Spice girls, busted etc etc). What are these bands classed as if they were not popular? Pop is usually just manufactured music. Also I have heard soft rock songs, they are classed us rock even though they are not heavy. U2 and Oasis are examples
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04-06-2005, 10:29
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Re: What is pop/rock/indie
Pop is for stupid little kids!
And there is nothing wrong with coldplay!
Bring back Carter USM, PWEI, they were class and very clever and political.
So are what Iron maiden then as the are under EMIS wing????
You cannot say that about labels, the only reason they go to a label like that is because of the deal they got, and Iron maiden have been with EMI for over 20+ and you cannot call them poppy now can you???
Even the kids like the same stuff as us: Marillion [rock, not progressive,] Kiaser chiefs, tons of rock and metal but not pop that is rubbish [just think westlife!!!!]
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