NTL promoting copyright infringement - Page 15

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 15:01

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Originally posted by XFS03
Talking of "grasping at straws", don't you think by introducing the above that you are more guilty than anyone?The kind of quote above is always trotted out when someone cannot think of anything else to substantiate their arguement.

Well, with the hypocrisy of the entire thread in the first place, I wasn't really given much to go on...

It has been 15 pages now, and all the decent stuff got used ages ago - needs must etc....

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[/b]btw...how do you know what any of the members do in the rest of their spare time? [/B]

Forgive my assumption, but I don't think that someone who would tend to the wounds of a pitbull terrier after a bout of illegal fighting would give a crap about the wording of an advert for an internet service.

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 15:07

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Originally posted by orangebird
OH, OK. And if ntl get a bloody great fine, where do you think they're going to cut costs?

It's unlikely there would be a big fine, just a retraction.

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It's a shame I've never seen you so supportive of ntl employees when other members here and .com quite openly say how much they would like the company to go under....

I will defend ANY employee of ANY company if I beleive they are doing their job to the best of their abilities. On NTHell I have defended the CS staff to the hilt, on co.uk I have asked and received assistance from NTL staff and been very grateful for that help, on .com, I can't say much as I don't go there that often.

NTL suffer sometimes unsubstantiated complaints, and I beleive that they still have work to to. I am not in the business of slgging NTL or it's employees off as they provide a good service to me. But sometimes they shoot themselves in the foot.

... and by the way, I like the way you argue, and have the utmost respect for you. You're doing a tough job and exposing yourself to these sites won't make you feel better.

Respect

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 15:10

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Originally posted by Nemesis
<snip>... and by the way, I like the way you argue, and have the utmost respect for you. You're doing a tough job and exposing yourself to these sites won't make you feel better.

Respect

Not sure if that was a compliment or not..

but thanks!

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 15:12

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Originally posted by orangebird
Not sure if that was a compliment or not..
but thanks!

It was

but don't let it go to your head, NTL were still wrong printing that advert

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 15:14

You two still arguing its wrong, its agreed.

Now what should we do about it

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 15:18

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Originally posted by th'engineer
You two still arguing its wrong agreed now what should we do about it

Now that's a question, but I'm quite sure that someone will report it to the ASA. Maybe instead of NTL bashing, we should start <wait for it> supporting <there I said it> NTL.

Why do any of us need to report it, if it DOES get reported then NTL will learn their lesson. But what good does it do us ?

Yes they were wrong, but do WE need to do anything about it ?

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 15:18

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Originally posted by Nemesis
It was but don't let it go to your head, NTL were still wrong printing that advert

I never said they weren't

But all this fuss

especially when as far as BB goes, we've most of us done illegal downloads ourselves..

Do unto those (or something) etc etc - or pot and kettle....

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 15:20

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Originally posted by Nemesis
Now that's a question, but I'm quite sure that someone will report it to the ASA. Maybe instead of NTL bashing, we should start <wait for it> supporting <there I said it> NTL.

Why do any of us need to report it, if it DOES get reported then NTL will learn their lesson. But what good does it do us ?

Yes they were wrong, but do WE need to do anything about it ?

AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed, ask yourselves - of benefit would reporting ntl be to you?
Are you really doing it for the good of all bb mankind? Or are you just p1ssed at ntl for other reasons?

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 15:21

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Originally posted by orangebird
I never said they weren't But all this fuss especially when as far as BB goes, we've most of us done illegal downloads ourselves..

Do unto those (or something) etc etc - or pot and kettle....

See my post above, things need to calm down here. Attacking others does not sit well with me. I'm here because I'm interested and want to help as well as voice my opinion, but it is just that MY opinion.

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 15:44

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Originally posted by orangebird
AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed, ask yourselves - of benefit would reporting ntl be to you?
Are you really doing it for the good of all bb mankind? Or are you just p1ssed at ntl for other reasons?

It would keep the forum numbers down, customers would not moan about not being told the truth by NTL again.

So if they withdraw the advert its better for existing and new customers because the implied meaning is untrue.

orangebird · 05-09-2003, 15:49

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Originally posted by th'engineer
It would keep the forum numbers down, customers would not moan about not being told the truth by NTL again.

So if they withdraw the advert its better for existing and new customers because the implied meaning is untrue.

Th'eng - you quite openly admitted that you don't care about this advert - you're just gunning for ntl and jumping on the bandwagon cos of the cap...

So I'm not quite sure as to why you bothered replying to my post. You position was already perfectly clear.

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 15:50

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Originally posted by th'engineer
It would keep the forum numbers down, customers would not moan about not being told the truth by NTL again.

So if they withdraw the advert its better for existing and new customers because the implied meaning is untrue.

But is it OUR responsibility to fix NTL's errors. The flipside is that the forum members increase ans become a larger voice that the Media and NTL will listen to.

Back to my other point of using the forums to be somewhat constructive in any way that we can.

I admit that there will always be NTHell stories, as there will be with Telewest, BT and many others, but come on, be realistic.

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 15:52

I am worried about the advert because it gives the impression you can download loads of movies and can not because of the cap.

Therefore the advert is incorrect the bonus part is it also suggests downloading pirated films which really takes the biscuit even for NTL

Nemesis · 05-09-2003, 15:54

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Originally posted by th'engineer
Therefore the advert is incorrect the bonus part is it also suggests downloading pirated films which really takes the biscuit even for NTL

This is agreed, but the cap would be explained on sign up, the advert is there to entice.

th'engineer · 05-09-2003, 15:57

never heard the cap explained to anyone its hidden in the AUP