Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS

Originally Posted by ikthius

killing kids is fundamentally wrong, even if they are jedi younglings, he would have known right from wrong.

but to just do what palpatine wanted straight away was silly.

ik

Vader desided he would do what it takes to save padme before he interfered with mace windu,he was already lost before he went to the temple,the dark side had won him over,He also made a choice of doing what he knew was wrong near the start when he killed the Count
He was totally blagged by the emporer about the jedi taking over the republic,he thought he was bringing peace although he felt it was wrong

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by ikthius

bit pansy like, but I understood why it was there, to let you know there is still good in him, but not much, I hated how he came off that tray thing, as if he could not walk/robotic like, he is a bloody jedi, he should know how to do it.

I hated the bit at the lava, where he jumps onto the smallest wee platform thing.

ik
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emperor said vader would be more powerful than him, so explainable.

killing kids is fundamentally wrong, even if they are jedi younglings, he would have known right from wrong.

but to just do what palpatine wanted straight away was silly.

ik

I thought the point in the youngling slaughter was because palpatine had told him that the only way to become powerful enough with the dark side to save padme was to kill all the Jedi, younglings = Jedi = younglings dead
Guess I missunderstood that then

[jamesclarke555]

Really enjoyed ROTS, even if there were a couple of continuity errors.

They better make Episodes 7, 8 and 9. Just been reading the plot scripts over at www.supershadow.com.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by jamesclarke555

They better make Episodes 7, 8 and 9. Just been reading the plot scripts over at www.supershadow.com.

Almost certainly fakes, I think.


I had a read of them earlier, and, to me, they read more like something a fan had written. Also included various characters from the "Expanded Universe", which aren't part of official continuity.

Then had a look around the rest of the site. A lot of it seemed...wrong. The clincher was the part with Supershadow allegedly interviewing George Lucas. Read it... obviously not real.


Quick Google then found...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow

which confirmed the site is BS.

[sherer]

anyone read the forums over at starwars.com.. these people are like religous fanatics over there and can't accept that some bits are wrong and don't make sense..

overall i enjoyed the three new films but they could have been so much better..

ep 1 could have just had 30 mins with a young Anakin and got rid of Jar-Jar and the pod racing plus that stupid there was no father then then Qui-Jon just going "oh ok then".. it did introduce Padme and the other characters but then after making Padme a really strong female character she hardly had anything to do in the third film

ep 2 was like Empire and set the scene for the third film very well done and left you guessing what was going to happen next.. still could have been some bits that were better as Anakin was meant to have been in love with Padme since he was 8 but you didn't see this in the first film

ep 3 needed to be longer.. he was turned to quickly and then once he got the suit etc the film ended even though they could have gone into the dark side more esp the screne with the "nnooooo" where the room shakes with power

[Tezcatlipoca]

I don't think he turned too quickly.

He'd already started to turn a bit back in Episode 2, when he slaughtered the Sand People.

And he was already quite angry, arrogant, & impatient. All dark side emotions.

He got more angry & frustrated with the Council, & with Obi Wan.

He was fearful of Padme dying.

He was already on his way... then Palpatine told him that Padme could only be saved if he learnt about the dark side from him, & served him. So he made that choice to help Palpatine, as he *had* to save Padme. And so he turned to the Dark Side.

Not too quick or sudden IMO, & the reasoning made sense.

I agree totally
Let face it lucas has had the storylines for this for above 20 years
It was all destiny inevitable,anakin skywalker is still the chosen one,he still does destroy the sith(well the emporer anyway) He just has to spend the time as vader,If you watch the new dvd set of 4 5 and 6 at the end anakin comes back sits with yoda and obi wan not as an older darth type but as he was before he turned

[sherer]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I don't think he turned too quickly.

He'd already started to turn a bit back in Episode 2, when he slaughtered the Sand People.

And he was already quite angry, arrogant, & impatient. All dark side emotions.

He got more angry & frustrated with the Council, & with Obi Wan.

He was fearful of Padme dying.

He was already on his way... then Palpatine told him that Padme could only be saved if he learnt about the dark side from him, & served him. So he made that choice to help Palpatine, as he *had* to save Padme. And so he turned to the Dark Side.

Not too quick or sudden IMO, & the reasoning made sense.

yes you had seen his dark side in ep II but that was isolated to them kidnapping his mother.. they could have continued down that path more not to go from one isolated moment to then killing all the other jedi and turning to the dark side.. if he just turned to save Padme he would still be good just using the knowledge the Sith had to save Padme.. not fully evil and killing them all

gues we will just have to agree to disagree on this

Originally Posted by sherer

yes you had seen his dark side in ep II but that was isolated to them kidnapping his mother.. they could have continued down that path more not to go from one isolated moment to then killing all the other jedi and turning to the dark side.. if he just turned to save Padme he would still be good just using the knowledge the Sith had to save Padme.. not fully evil and killing them all

gues we will just have to agree to disagree on this

How can he use the knowledge of the dark side and still be good,thats totally missing the point of light and dark no pale grey

[Lew]

Originally Posted by sherer

if he just turned to save Padme he would still be good just using the knowledge the Sith had to save Padme.. not fully evil and killing them all

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

I agree totally
Let face it lucas has had the storylines for this for above 20 years
It was all destiny inevitable,anakin skywalker is still the chosen one,he still does destroy the sith(well the emporer anyway) He just has to spend the time as vader,If you watch the new dvd set of 4 5 and 6 at the end anakin comes back sits with yoda and obi wan not as an older darth type but as he was before he turned

which kills off that Return of the Jedi, I prefered it as the old Anakin, not the new younger anakin.

ik

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Lew

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

Consume you it will

Originally Posted by ikthius

which kills off that Return of the Jedi, I prefered it as the old Anakin, not the new younger anakin.

ik

yeah but you can see why they did it,all the new viewers relate to haydon and seeing him right at the end come good is good for the viewing public now

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Lew

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

Having graham chapman say that is really quite freaky

[Paul K]

New Directors cut released