Flight Simulator 2004 questions

[Caspar]

Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Sounds good I have a el cheapo ST50 Jotstick I guess this aint helping me with my flying and what is likely making controlling jets in situations and learning things harder?

You should try my Xbox controller then!!!
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Originally Posted by McGraw

As stated above.

For England and Wales you need:

VFR Terrain
All the VFR Photographic scenery volumes

Then the fun begins as you need a good, well set up machine to get them looking good.

Right, have I got these two right?

VFR Scenery: Central West & Wales and VFR Scenery: East & North

Play.com don't do any "VFR Photographic scenery volumes" series?

Where can I get these, any direct links to the ones I should get?

Originally Posted by McGraw

See some of my screenshots for how good it all looks when set up properly.

http://forum.justflight.com/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=8567

Nice looking shots there ...I hope my GeForce 5900 Ultra 256MB can render just as nice???? (P4 3.2GHz Prescott, 1GB RAM)

[Raistlin]

I'm starting to feel a bit sad

There's no way my machine will run FS and look/perform anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile

[Caspar]

ok now I'm confused!

What's the difference between:

VFR Scenery: Central West & Wales and VFR Scenery: East & North

and

VFR 1 Photographic Scenery - East and South East England (add on for Flight Sim 2002) and VFR 2 Photographic Scenery - Central and Southern England (add on for Flight Sim 2002) and VFR 3 Photographic Scenery - Wales and South West England (add on for Flight Sim 2002) and VFR 4 Photographic Scenery - Northern England (add on for Flight Sim 2002)


I can't see how both products can work at the same time?...surely one has priority over the other...which should I get?

[Raistlin]

Congrat's to AJ though - first gold pip

[Caspar]

I can't find VFR Terrain anywhere?

...and is that better than the European Enhanced Terrain that I've already bought?


EDIT: Anyone tried FS Terrain - add on for MS flight Sim 2004?

[McGraw]

www.justflight.com for photo scenery. 3 for £20 plus 1 for £10

I got VFR Terrain from GAME £25.

I also got FS Global SE to sort the rest of the world mesh out.

Expensive hobby

[AndrewJ]

Give it a try when I had my cack pc I only turned up the aircraft detail.

[Caspar]

Originally Posted by McGraw

www.justflight.com for photo scenery. 3 for £20 plus 1 for £10

I got VFR Terrain from GAME £25.

I also got FS Global SE to sort the rest of the world mesh out.

Expensive hobby

Got a direct link...all I see are them on the right in top sellers for £13 each?

[AndrewJ]

This is my general fly area, low nice and in the Mooney Bravo ( with modified .air file for better flying stats)

[McGraw]

Sorry, my mistake. They are 3 for £20 from GAME. They tend to have the three that aren't in their area if that makes sense. For instance, Manchester GAME never has the Northern section so I got that online.

You can get the 4th one for £8 from Justflight by registering for their reward scheme which gives you £5 off your first purchase.
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Originally Posted by Caspar

ok now I'm confused!

What's the difference between:

VFR Scenery: Central West & Wales and VFR Scenery: East & North

and

VFR 1 Photographic Scenery - East and South East England (add on for Flight Sim 2002) and VFR 2 Photographic Scenery - Central and Southern England (add on for Flight Sim 2002) and VFR 3 Photographic Scenery - Wales and South West England (add on for Flight Sim 2002) and VFR 4 Photographic Scenery - Northern England (add on for Flight Sim 2002)


I can't see how both products can work at the same time?...surely one has priority over the other...which should I get?

Ok, VFR terrain is a mesh. It is the best possible mesh you can get for England and Wales. Mesh defines the actual hills and valleys, nothing else. MSFS does not support higher detail than it VFR terrain provides. You can also buy it in four parts. VFR Terrain on it's own is all four parts together.

The VFTR photo scenery is only available in parts 1-4. You have to buy them separately. It overlays photo-realistic pictures taken at 5000 feet onto the mesh surface of the terrain.

Yes, they do work together. In fact they are designed to work together and look fabulous to boot.

The Euro one you've got does a much better job of Europe's mesh than the MS default but not as good as VFR Terrain does for the UK.

I have FS Global SE which does the whole world mesh at much better detail than MS default but not as good as VFR Terrain.

Once again, if you fly England and Wales you simply must get VFR Terrain and the photo sceneries. There is nothing worse than flying a route that reverts back to MS default.

I flew Concorde from Paris to JFJK last night after forgetting to activate FS Global again after an MSFS reinstall.

It was truly awful and you'd think there were no mountains anywhere.

[AndrewJ]

What altitude do you all fly at??

I am at about 30000ft so mountains and other ground things aint a problem. only time I am at a low height is when I am coming in for landing.

[McGraw]

Depends on the aircraft!

Anything from 59,000ft with Concorde down to 1500ft with the Spitfire.

[AndrewJ]

True I even push the Cessna to about 10k feet, prefer it high up, although I tend to fly my Lockheed F-16 at the deck level.

[Caspar]

Originally Posted by McGraw

Sorry, my mistake. They are 3 for £20 from GAME. They tend to have the three that aren't in their area if that makes sense. For instance, Manchester GAME never has the Northern section so I got that online.

You can get the 4th one for £8 from Justflight by registering for their reward scheme which gives you £5 off your first purchase.
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Ok, VFR terrain is a mesh. It is the best possible mesh you can get for England and Wales. Mesh defines the actual hills and valleys, nothing else. MSFS does not support higher detail than it VFR terrain provides. You can also buy it in four parts. VFR Terrain on it's own is all four parts together.

The VFTR photo scenery is only available in parts 1-4. You have to buy them separately. It overlays photo-realistic pictures taken at 5000 feet onto the mesh surface of the terrain.

Yes, they do work together. In fact they are designed to work together and look fabulous to boot.

The Euro one you've got does a much better job of Europe's mesh than the MS default but not as good as VFR Terrain does for the UK.

I have FS Global SE which does the whole world mesh at much better detail than MS default but not as good as VFR Terrain.

Once again, if you fly England and Wales you simply must get VFR Terrain and the photo sceneries. There is nothing worse than flying a route that reverts back to MS default.

I flew Concorde from Paris to JFJK last night after forgetting to activate FS Global again after an MSFS reinstall.

It was truly awful and you'd think there were no mountains anywhere.

Thanks for that

Where can I get VFR Terrain from and the 4 photo packs? Everywhere seems sold out Tried game.uk.com, play.com, gameplay.com, amazon.co.uk. Where else? direct links?
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One further question!

What is FS Terrain then?

[McGraw]

www.horizonsimulation.com
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FS Terrain is the pre-cursor to FS Global SE I think.

It sorts the mesh of the whole world to a very good standard.

VFR Terrain is better for the UK though.

Get FS Global SE on DVD if you want to sort the mesh of the whole planet out.