Announced today

[mrm1]

I'm still getting a ton of spam on one of my addresses.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Ian Goldby

Well, my experience is that legitimate (non-spam) emails do get blocked. There is no WebMail folder for blocked messages, and there is no customer option to change the filtering. Nice one, NTL

Have a look at my post a few above - the sort of spam filtering NTL are trying to get is for 0 false positive, not 0 spam. This is often done by the spam service provider having hidden mail addresses at most ISPs, if a mail appears in one, it is spam and a rule invented. Thats what Brightmail does. Not sure about the NTL one.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by mrm1

I'm still getting a ton of spam on one of my addresses.

My wife account still gets shed loads of spam offering viagra, etc etc

[purenuman]

I can no longer receive email from Hotmail

[Nanook]

I just mailed from my hotmail to my ntl, opened it in OE no probs.

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by Nanook

I just mailed from my hotmail to my ntl, opened it in OE no probs.

When I do the same nothing arrives

Originally Posted by purenuman

I can no longer receive email from Hotmail

I just tried setting up hotmail to work as a POP3 account using outlook express - no go.

I removed the account from Outlook Express & reinstalled as an HTTP account & it works.

- IIRC they have been talking about moving POP3 access into the 'paid for' type account for ages, but seeing as Outlook Express has built in support for the HTTP type access, it doesn't seem too inconvenient.

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by homealone

I just tried setting up hotmail to work as a POP3 account using outlook express - no go.

I removed the account from Outlook Express & reinstalled as an HTTP account & it works.

- IIRC they have been talking about moving POP3 access into the 'paid for' type account for ages, but seeing as Outlook Express has built in support for the HTTP type access, it doesn't seem too inconvenient.

All email sent to me from a Hotmail account does not arrive. It is inconvenient.

Originally Posted by purenuman

All email sent to me from a Hotmail account does not arrive. It is inconvenient.

how strange

I chose the 'HTTP' option during the account set up & the server defaulted to

http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp

which worked ok sending hotmail to Gmail

the 'old' mail.hotmail.com server setting is the one that no longer seems to work

[Ian Goldby]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Have a look at my post a few above - the sort of spam filtering NTL are trying to get is for 0 false positive, not 0 spam. This is often done by the spam service provider having hidden mail addresses at most ISPs, if a mail appears in one, it is spam and a rule invented. Thats what Brightmail does. Not sure about the NTL one.

Yes, I read your post. Going for zero false positives is a good aim. (Although I would argue that if just an aim then it is not good enough.) But as I said, my experience is that they are dropping some non-spam emails.

In particular, they are (or were at the last time I was able to get any information out of them - December last year) using realtime blackhole lists to refuse mail from certain hosts, purely on the basis of the originating address, not the email content. My website has much more detail.

Anyway, if it works for you, that's great for you (although - would you know if a legitimate email had failed to reach you?)

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Ian Goldby

Anyway, if it works for you, that's great for you (although - would you know if a legitimate email had failed to reach you?)

I found NTL's email so bad that I carried on using demons pop servers for inbound mail for a long time. Then I was only frustrated when their SMTP servers were playing up.

Now I use i-webs servers and that has server based spam trapping all my spam comes through with {spam} at the front and is neatly filed by outlook for review and later deletion (to be honest nowadays it is more or less straight deletion).

So I cannot really comment on the ntl mail, all I use from NTL is the broadband pipe from my home. news sucks too, I used to read newsgroups until I switched to bB.

[Chrysalis]

I think my spam is reduced but I have never had tons of spam so its hard for me to judge, last year on my ntl account I think I got about 2 spam a day now its about 2 a week.

Well I've been having problems getting some legit email from some sites recently.I've had to switch from ntl email to gmail to get the relevant emails restored.
As long as I can carry on using it for my online ordering that's fine.Depends o n what the new software thinks is true spam.

I'm still getting loads of Spam mail.