Mac OS 10.4 "Tiger" on april 29th! - Page 3

Lew · 13-04-2005, 20:53

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Originally Posted by Tristan

Windows users got upgraded to OpenGl 1.5 when the video card manufacturers updated their drivers, which was quite a while ago. Are Apple really offering a driver upgrade as a selling point?

Sort of. OS X uses OpenGL for the GUI (IIRC, every window is an OpenGL texture). If the upgrade to OpenGL 1.5 can provide performance increases then I suppose they can get away with touting it as a new feature, just as the version of DirectX that came with Win2K (can't recall which version it was) was a new feature for Win2K, as it didn't work on NT4 (or at least NT4 had a limited subset of functionality).

**Damien** · 13-04-2005, 21:04

They are not really offering it as a selling point, its listed in one the sub sections towards the end

Stuart · 13-04-2005, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Damien

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You are forgetting all the enhancements that require .mac access to work. Another ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 a year. Imagine the outcry if Microsoft started offering services in Windows that require a subscription

Some features, all of them work but you can sync information as a back up to .mac (picture, bookmarks, address book, etc etc) but there are no features that require .mac to work. Even the feature that do have a .mac option are usually to do with putting information on .mac such as bookmarks/contacts.

Also its ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£69 not ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 (ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£50 until middle of may)

My apologies.. I thought a .mac subscription was ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100..

downquark1 · 13-04-2005, 21:38

Well microsoft did do much smaller leaps before, (remember 98 to ME). But I agree it is on the pricey side for once a year, but this is how apple are developing. Remember is was a huge leap for them to move onto the X system. I will reserve judgement on how big a leap it is until I actually play with the software.

Stuart · 13-04-2005, 21:43

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Originally Posted by downquark1

Well microsoft did do much smaller leaps before, (remember 98 to ME). But I agree it is on the pricey side for once a year, but this is how apple are developing. Remember is was a huge leap for them to move onto the X system. I will reserve judgement on how big a leap it is until I actually play with the software.

Good point. Despite how it sounds, I actually haven't discounted buying it. A certain person close to me has been making noises about getting a Mac Mini, so if that happens, I'll get it anyway..

Chris W · 13-04-2005, 21:45

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Originally Posted by scastle

Good point. Despite how it sounds, I actually haven't discounted buying it. A certain person close to me has been making noises about getting a Mac Mini, so if that happens, I'll get it anyway..

get one... i did and it gets a

from me...

I guess it is possible that the mini will ship with Tiger after its release anyway...

**Damien** · 13-04-2005, 21:49

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Originally Posted by downquark1

Well microsoft did do much smaller leaps before, (remember 98 to ME). But I agree it is on the pricey side for once a year, but this is how apple are developing. Remember is was a huge leap for them to move onto the X system. I will reserve judgement on how big a leap it is until I actually play with the software.

Well they are slowing down with the upgrades now

I admit that they are speeding though upgrades but as you say this is how they are developing. To be honest ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£60 a year is ok for a new OS. I prefere apple releasing an OS a year as it speeds up the development and makes the default OS much more advanced. Longhorn will not reach the level of the current OS for mac and Tiger can more than hold its own (although we have to wait to see what ideas MS use from tiger). Hopefully Apple will be secretly working on 10.5 to blow Longhorn out of the water, but not make it public until a surprise release around longhorn's arrival

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Originally Posted by monkeybreath

get one... i did and it gets a

from me...

I guess it is possible that the mini will ship with Tiger after its release anyway...

All macs always ship with the latest Operating system by defalut. It WILL have Tiger on it

downquark1 · 13-04-2005, 21:54

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All macs always ship with the latest Operating system by defalut. It WILL have Tiger on it

And if it doesn't you can claim a free upgrade usually.

dilli-theclaw · 13-04-2005, 21:57

I am SO close to buying an apple mini - just need to pursuade buxom woman......

It would be nice if it had the latest v of the operating system on it.

One question, when next years upgrade comes out - and say I don't want to buy it - do I still get free security upgrades?

Chris W · 13-04-2005, 21:58

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

I am SO close to buying an apple mini - just need to pursuade buxom woman......

It would be nice if it had the latest v of the operating system on it.

One question, when next years upgrade comes out - and say I don't want to buy it - do I still get free security upgrades?

yup updates for mac apps are released the same way (some would argue less reguarly) as windows updates

dilli-theclaw · 13-04-2005, 22:00

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Originally Posted by monkeybreath

yup updates for mac apps are released the same way (some would argue less reguarly) as windows updates

Thanks for that

Stuart · 13-04-2005, 22:00

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

One question, when next years upgrade comes out - and say I don't want to buy it - do I still get free security upgrades?

You should do. AFAIK, Apple are still patching 10.2 (Jaguar).

dilli-theclaw · 13-04-2005, 22:01

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Originally Posted by scastle

You should do. AFAIK, Apple are still patching 10.2 (Jaguar).

Thanks

All I need now is a way to pursuade the boss to let me have one. I know I've already got a few pc's in the house - but I'd still like one

**Damien** · 13-04-2005, 22:12

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Originally Posted by downquark1

And if it doesn't you can claim a free upgrade usually.

If you buy it between now and release you get a free upgrade less P&P which is ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£11. Otherwise, its 10.4
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Thanks

All I need now is a way to pursuade the boss to let me have one. I know I've already got a few pc's in the house - but I'd still like one

Macs rule! Be sure to get bluetooth, superdrive and if it needs to connect wirelessly then airport. Also get iLife for your photos. iPhoto is a great bit of software. You can search though photos in their comments/key words. So type in someones name and all there photos appear before you even finish typing! like itunes.

Also with tiger spotlight will work so say to type in a name all the emails, documents, photos, videos, pdfs, whatever will appear. You can narrow it down (mum, summer 91, bike) or (wife, wedding) and then everything contain those appear (it also searchs inside documents, so text in a word/pdf file will cause it to be listed. You can narrow down serchs as much as you want from date to file type. So if youre only looking for emails then thats all you look for

If you search for the same term a lot like 'phone upgrade' then a smart folder will automatically store information containing that term. So phoone upgrade will automatically store any document that contians those words together

Very useful spotlight

Chris W · 13-04-2005, 22:16

the mini comes with iLife as standard