Stress & Depression Biggest Cause of Sickies

[allieyoung666]

Paul dragged me down as he found me in a right state, he goes all the time with me, he is still scarred of the mood swings though, apparently I go aphasic as soon as my mood changes or I stop talking, I do not even know that this is happening.
Kronas the problem with society nowadays that it is a 24hr contstant rush, humans do care but some poeple are just to scarred to show it, if you do they are called soft, so people just show it in different ways. I do not agree with the statement that you made though. You want to try and do 12 hr shift with me, and then you will see every emmotion under the sun. When Paul crushed his leg, nothing mattered, the money, the house, the car and the good job I had. the only thing that mattered was Paul and if he was going to survive, those 12 hrs were sheer hell. I still have nightmares now. I dont know in which part of society you have been looking at. But try looking at your own family and friends to get a view.

Escapee, Well I once turned around in front of an open plan office of 60 people and screamed at a fellow manager to 'f- off'. She said 'pardon' so I said......

To be fair (to me at least) she deserved it and I was very popular for having took her on (she treated everybody like sh*te - she's the MD now. Of a fast sinking ship mind you) But, even though because of her reputation I didn't need to, I resigned. The change of jobs was what sparked my major episode (off for 6 weeks, five days into my new job. Oops) which then led to me going self employed. Every cloud, as they say.

[allieyoung666]

I told my ward manager to do that and then I walked! And then the next day I went to work for the nursing agency that I have been with for a long time! I had been wanting to walk for a while, so when I found out that she would not let me transfer to another hospital I told her where to go, chucked me badge on the floor. And everybody cheered!!! Needless to say she is no long ward manager

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by andyl

Escapee, Well I once turned around in front of an open plan office of 60 people and screamed at a fellow manager to 'f- off'. She said 'pardon' so I said......

To be fair (to me at least) she deserved it and I was very popular for having took her on (she treated everybody like sh*te - she's the MD now. Of a fast sinking ship mind you) But, even though because of her reputation I didn't need to, I resigned. The change of jobs was what sparked my major episode (off for 6 weeks, five days into my new job. Oops) which then led to me going self employed. Every cloud, as they say.

Sometimes it works to your advantage, my current director has taken a different view since I had a go at him. I dont think he's scared of me, but he now knows I'm no push over but prepared to do more than my share.

I had another guy in work have an outburst, and throw all the paperwork up in the air when I got on his nerves a few weeks ago. I didn't hold it against him, because it was my fault. I was stressed myself and should of just left him to carry on with the task, I was so worked up he blew his top.

He apologised to me, and I said "No, it was my fault" I didn't feel angry towards him, I was actually embarassed because he made me realise how I had been acting!

It was very worrying at one point, I have never been violent to anyone around me. I would however say if someone I didn't like had upset me and got me into one of my moods.....who knows.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by andyl

Kronas, didn't really take on your comment before but I do totally agree. There seems to be a lack of caring, of conscience, of principle, out there these days which I find depresssing and disturbing. Sh*t, maybe we are right and everybody else needs the diazepam?!!

Very cathartic all this, whatever

im glad you agree

Originally Posted by andyl

So can we all form a F**ked Up Club?

ill join

Originally Posted by andyl

Are you saying time to get off CF and talk to real people?!

i find real people boring and not stimulating at all, then again i dont think i have right circle of freinds to say everyone in the world is which i dont believe they are....but i prefer spending time on here really...

Originally Posted by Damien

I hope you do know that this is not the case. I belive that the human race is basically good

oh its been the case with everyone i come in to contact with, i dont wish to label everyone the same but experiances show that people who are willing to help are only there to see what they can get out of it for themselves, again just my experiance, i know its not the same for everyone but for the majority of the time it has been, certainly for me anyway.

Originally Posted by Damien

The thing about this as punky has said is that it is a very hard thing to prove/dis-prove. I dont belive many people fake it. But they could be a case that some people see this problem in the media, in the real world and start to think they have clincal depression. Worrying about this would send them in a downward sprial and actual clincal depression then starts. Although i am not sure and certainly am not saying it happpens to people here

i dont think its an easy thing to fake if there is a problem then doctors and psychologists and councillors will spot a fake no matter how hard you try....

Originally Posted by Damien

I am not sure if that happens but it may, one of the problems is that you then worry about your illness and this makes you more depressed causing a horrible circle that needs to be broken as soon as possible. Also what people have said about thinking, if you have too much time to yourself and not enough things to keep you busy you will end up with a problem, no matter how 'solid' you are. A lack of interaction with other humans does cause mental illness

i think it rather depends on what you find 'mentally stimulating' interaction with other human beings is fine and recommended however its not always the best direction to pulll yourself out of a whole from, more problems can be harvested with others such as disagreements or influence of other things such as illegal substances.....it can happen!

Originally Posted by mrlipring

Damn near impossible to stop it though.

tell me about it


[QUOTE=mrlipring
I've found the best way to get by is to keep busy, just to stop you thinking, but that's not always possible when you're not physically able to get out of bed, and leaving the house doesn't fell you with joy. [/QUOTE]

you can try and do that to the best of your ability but the fact remains if there is an underlying problem then its just causing a distraction temporarily you will go back to suffering once your alone or have some spare time on your hands!

[mrlipring]

I hear ya, kronas.

I've found, however, that medication (and i was on all sorts over a periof of years in my early teens) and therapy didn't work, so avoidance is all i have.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by mrlipring

I hear ya, kronas.

I've found, however, that medication (and i was on all sorts over a periof of years in my early teens) and therapy didn't work, so avoidance is all i have.

im telling it like it is because im feeling it right now and have done so for the most part of tonight i found my trigger and its not an easy things to get rid of because it involves a person and my current signiture will tell you what that is!

and oh my problems have been going on long before that so atleast i can say thats its one of the things that plague my mind, but when you cant systamatically find the root cause it becomes killer, no one else can seem to guide you either.

how many times has a person got to pick himself up before he gets sick of doing it!

[allieyoung666]

Love is hard, the first time I did an overdose was over a boy, I felt pretty hurt and abused as he only used my as he found out that my parents were loaded, so he took me for a ride. Thats what triggered my depression off.
Yeah the drugs only work for some time, but then those old demons come back to haunt you. I even branched out and did my RMN, to see their view on mental health. But these guys are stuck behind a mountain of paperwork, as I found out during my training and red tape that they cannot do their job properly which is a shame. I have even had ECT when I was 18 as they thought I needed an adjustment in my brain, but all that did was make me worse. I have been sectioned for 6 months, but all that did was make me stew in my own juice. I have had group/ single councilling, but it does not work and it hurts big style. I have od on various occasions, but never worked. I have even attacked the one I love, but he will not tell anyone as it will get me locked up for good.
Work are cool they never give me long term contracts as I get fed up of being stuck in one place, infact these guys are the best company I have ever worked for, they give me breathing space when I need it.
Kronas if you ever need to talk Im here. Just PM me and it will be confidential okies. If I can help you I will.

[Escapee]

I mentioned earlier in this thread about a guy I work with who has been off from work for a long period with stress, and last week had to be taken home in a taxi. He has asked for about two years if he can work 3 days a week, unfortunately the company has refused this request. The guy is very clever, and I have said its better having him in work for 3 days a week to look after all the awkward little jobs, than not have him in at all.

He got very worked up early last year when a contractor was taken on full time, and allowed to carry on working 30 hours a week. This guy was allowed this for "Religious reasons". However health reasons for the guy suffering stress is not seen as important as "religious reasons", I think the root of the problem is the company afraid with the religious guy taking them to court for being racist/discriminating against him. The guy suffering stress went sick last week after the muslim guy transferred to our department working 30 hours a week, the religious guy transfered into our department at a time when we were having a serious move around.

He instantly said "I cant lift anything I have strained my shoulder on the weekend", funny that though its exactly the same excuse he used when in our department before. When the department he came from moved, he went off sick.

So, it looks like HR are afraid of being anti-religion or racist, but discriminating against someone with a health problem is OK. I do not blame the company, but it goes to show who has power in this country to make companies afraid!

There are laws to protect people with a health problem, the same protection religion has

[allieyoung666]

Companies like to think that depression and mental health does not exist and therefore wont recognise it. They tell you to get a grip and get on with it. I am sick of them bending over backwards for certain people but not for others. When I worked for the NHS they did not want to even know, they just told me to stop being on the sick or go, so I went. But yet they have just made a chapel for some of the nurses in the hospitial, because it was in the wrong place and it offened Allah!!! Just what do these people get off on??
The goverment can look after the visitors {I am being polite} but struggles to care for their own, no wonder we are looking to get out of this country as it is going down the pan rapidly.

Lets move back onto the subject of depression rather than immigration/race/religion/politcal correctness

[etccarmageddon]

it sounds like there needs to be something similar to AA but for stressed/depression sufferers.

Mind Anonomous or something?

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Damien

There are laws to protect people with a health problem, the same protection religion has

I disagree, health does not frighten a company as much as being racist or discrimination on religious or other grounds. How often is a company taken to court because of discrimination for health reasons compared to lets just say others to keep it on topic.

The company is not a bad one, but they have told the guy affected that if he is allowed to work 3 days a week due to health reasons, they would have to make that option available to everyone. Surely that also goes for the other guys reason who is getting what he wants!

I think it stinks personally, I suggested to the guy suffering badly from stress that he should convert to muslim and then ask to reduce hours!

I am still keeping my points to stress, just pointing out a current situation where its not being taken seriously.

My understanding is that under current legislation, if an employee makes an official notification of work related stress, then they must act. I could be wrong (a rare admission )