28-03-2005, 21:05
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Thanks m8! Power up won't happen for a while as I'm still waiting for PSU/CPU 
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Only Rammy could do it this way around
Oh and stop looking for an internal speaker on that case as it looks as if it aint got one
Thats on hell of a manual for that case mind it is one hell of a case.
I could do with a customer or three like you  I always end up doing budget PC's for peeps.
Still when you get the PSU and are going for the power on as I said before i'm on the other end of the phone as is Nemmy.
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28-03-2005, 21:11
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#212
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Thanks m8! Power up won't happen for a while as I'm still waiting for PSU/CPU 
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i can feel the tension rising as i type  ,
anyone fancy running a book on whether it boots up or not
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28-03-2005, 22:01
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#213
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[NTHW] pc clan
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by Rough.D
Only Rammy could do it this way around 
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Not my choice..talk to dabs
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Oh and stop looking for an internal speaker on that case as it looks as if it aint got one
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Yep, I know
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Thats on hell of a manual for that case mind it is one hell of a case.
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yep, I know
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Still when you get the PSU and are going for the power on as I said before i'm on the other end of the phone as is Nemmy.
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Cheers m8!
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28-03-2005, 22:02
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
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28-03-2005, 22:21
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
in that case in the unlikely event the pc wont boot just unplug audigy and plug speakers into onboard sound
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No need to unplug the Audigy. Just plug the speaker connection into the Line output socket on the back of the motherboard (usually a green 3.5 millimetre socket) and enable the onboard sound on the Bios.
As with King Phoenix, I have never encountered a motherboard where you have to disable the onboard sound for a PCI sound card to work. There is no reason for it to work like that. The only reason that it happens with onboard video and AGP video cards is that the motherboard chipset does not have enough bandwidth to activate both at the same time. According to Intel anyway. Sound, working using PCI, does NOT have the same problem.
Even if Ramrod leaves the onboard sound enabled, it'll just show up in Windows as a second sound card.
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28-03-2005, 22:44
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Re: Building my own PC
I never actually said anything about disabling the sound card other than saying the onboard may well disable itself with a diff sound card installed,Kp said everyone on here will tell ramrod to disable the onboard but i guess we have found someone who dont lol lol  you have actually agreed with what i said about sound cards
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28-03-2005, 23:34
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#217
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by scastle
As with King Phoenix, I have never encountered a motherboard where you have to disable the onboard sound for a PCI sound card to work.
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This was never said,
However..... why generate empty process usage? why throw a spanner in the works for audio problems etc? He is never going to use the on board card, so why have it enabled, using ram and resources it doesnt need to!
Please bear in mind, ramrod is building a performance machine. Not just some box to bog down with crap
All he needs to do is fit a small pc speaker to hear the beeps if something should go wrong, and he can ignore the ac97 P.O.S that comes on the board
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28-03-2005, 23:43
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by KingPhoenix
he can ignore the ac97 P.O.S that comes on the board
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Agreed!
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28-03-2005, 23:46
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Re: Building my own PC
at no point did i say anything different,the voice alerts come through the onboard sound chip and like i said earlier if something went wrong he would need to clear the cmos to enable the onboard sound again to hear said warning if windows is not reached am i wrong??
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28-03-2005, 23:48
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by KingPhoenix
Please bear in mind, ramrod is building a performance machine. Not just some box to bog down with crap
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Thats the one!
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28-03-2005, 23:48
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#221
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
at no point did i say anything different,the voice alerts come through the onboard sound chip and like i said earlier if something went wrong he would need to clear the cmos to enable the onboard sound again to hear said warning if windows is not reached am i wrong?? i dont think so
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Why would he need to clear the cmos??? why cant he just enable it in bios again??? unless of course the fault is stopping the bios from loading, which would mean the entire system wouldnt work (no voice or beeps)
Im bored of this discussion, ill come back when the topic gets more interesting.....
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28-03-2005, 23:49
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Re: Building my own PC
he can only reach it again if the pc posts or you can't get into bios can you,the system wouldnt boot and warning would be given a)if memory failed b)if chip failed c)if graphics failed all these and more can be diagnosed through pre post warnings
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28-03-2005, 23:51
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
he can only reach it again if the pc posts or you can't get into bios can you
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but if the pc doesnt load its bios, how will it know which sound file to play  Hence the fact that if the bios is screwed, it wont make any difference, he wont get any beeps or voice regardless of soundcard.....
If the memory fails, you can get into bios, if the graphics card fails you can get into bios (admittedly you can see sod all  ) ive never had a cpu fail, so couldnt be sure...... but if the bios doesnt load...........
For someone that owns their own company building PCs............. well i wont go any further, it could be construed as a personal attack...
Like i said in my previous post. Ill come back when the topic changed
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28-03-2005, 23:52
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#224
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Re: Building my own PC
all i did was actually point out the lack of said speaker in the first place god only knows why it went hostile,and please bios warning in the form of the beeps can happen without a bios initialisation isnt that the whole point of them
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28-03-2005, 23:52
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#225
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Re: Building my own PC
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
he can only reach it again if the pc posts or you can't get into bios can you,the system wouldnt boot and warning would be given a)if memory failed b)if chip failed c)if graphics failed all these and more can be diagnosed through pre post warnings
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I think he knows that
Rammy, it's always good to disable ports you won't use, such as on mine I have all my game ports disabled and my serial port disabled. Helps to free up additional system resources
EDIT: Alright I admit I only just found the typo
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