Aussies give us our rubbish back - Page 3

23-03-2005, 18:05

Perhaps BB's point could have been better phrased but I do concur that the death penalty is an abhorrent, inhumane and primitive punishment which does the human race no credit . Neither, obviously, does child abuse.

The pros and cons of death penalty are of course a separate debate.... so shall we move on

Luv and peace and all that.

Ramrod · 23-03-2005, 18:14

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Originally Posted by andyl

.... so shall we move on

Luv and peace and all that.

Absolutely

allieyoung666 · 23-03-2005, 19:33

I am sorry BBKing, but I cannot get your head around your thinking neither. This guy is free to roam our country this means that he can choose were he wants to live? So this mean his house could be opposite a primary school for instance. How would you feel about that then. Personally I think you are a rude and upsetting person. You need to think about what you when when you are going to write it!

**Damien** · 23-03-2005, 19:56

Peace people

Remember that person will be closely watched by the police and has to be on the register and get a protection order so cannot really do much. Other than that he has done his time so he will be entitled to a free life

allieyoung666 · 23-03-2005, 19:57

Yeah but the only have to have their backs turned just once and this is when something can happen!!!

23-03-2005, 20:05

Shame on those who support the death penalty

23-03-2005, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Diamond

Shame on those who support the death penalty

In a word, Why?

allieyoung666 · 23-03-2005, 20:35

Well I am sorry you feel like that, just wait untill it happens to a member of your family and then the tables would turn. I see this happen all the time, people say they do not approve of the death penalty, but if a member of their family is affected [I.E their daughter is raper or their gran is murdered for ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£10] then this is when they wish was still in law. I have stuided something similar to this but it was based on an american family, they were law obiding their 3 kids never caused any trouble and would do anything to help other members of their community, then one day the eldest daughter was murdered by a known fellan and they soon changed their minds and the guy was put to death with a leathal injection. the father later said, I would have never ever wanted this to happen to anyone, but after this tradgedy has hit out family, I wanted that guy dead, because of what he did to my daughter. this is why I think the death penalty needs to be reintroduced. the way some of you go on about it, it is as if they will be sent to trial and then straight to the chair. It doesnt it takes years and years. Havent you ever heard if DNA, you can nail 99% of murders now.
I am going to study foresnics in Sept, and I have an interest in the criminal mind and various other subjects in this feild.

me283 · 23-03-2005, 20:46

OK, just to throw my hat in here... I think the death penalty is a good thing, in extreme cases. For example: Harold Shipman, Peter Sutcliffe, Myra Hindley, Ian Brady... people who, in a sensible world, would NEVER EVER get out of jail. And there are others that fit that bill.

But the original issue here was about a country repatriating a criminal to his own country. That is also something I fully agree with, and believe it should happen for ALL offences. If you break the rules of another country, you have no right to stay there.

PS In concurrence with a previous poster, my views are also probably viewed as "harsh". But then my view is that this country is rapidly going down the pan.

allieyoung666 · 23-03-2005, 20:55

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Originally Posted by me283

OK, just to throw my hat in here... I think the death penalty is a good thing, in extreme cases. For example: Harold Shipman, Peter Sutcliffe, Myra Hindley, Ian Brady... people who, in a sensible world, would NEVER EVER get out of jail. And there are others that fit that bill.

But the original issue here was about a country repatriating a criminal to his own country. That is also something I fully agree with, and believe it should happen for ALL offences. If you break the rules of another country, you have no right to stay there.

PS In concurrence with a previous poster, my views are also probably viewed as "harsh". But then my view is that this country is rapidly going down the pan.

I do totally agree with you on some points: yes this country is going down the pan, and is going rapidly downward.
I have been called harsh in previous posts, but so is reality I wish people would get with the system instead of hiding behind the curtains and wishing it would all just go away, it wont.
I agree if a person has commited a crime no matter what, even if it is a petty crime they should be deported ASAP, we are not a holding centre for other countries.
many peados have said they would reoffend and they have, so when is the goverment going to learn?
Like those 2 poor girls like Huntley murdered, why??? it is just a waste of life, you will never ever know the truth.

budwieser · 23-03-2005, 23:25

Just my own harsh thoughts now.........
Anybody who abuses a child should be jailed for life and in my opinion, thats an easy sentence!.
I, personally have had enough of the "Bleeding Hearts Brigade" in this once great country of ours where the wrongdoers have all the rights and get all the support and the normal, hardworking people with families get absoloutely **** all from the government and the courts. The judicial system in this country is a total joke and i speak from personal expeirience.
Why should we give any recourse to the paeodophiles,murderers and rapists who seem to be so prolific in our country today?
Everybody seems so concerned with the rights of people who commit serious offences nowadays, what about the rights of the innocent children who are abused and killed and the innocent rape victims?
My wife works with elderly people with mental health problems, ie dementia etc and some of these people have abused their own children yet they have more rights than the rest of us.!
I`m so ****ed off with this country and it`s system!
Why can`t we return to a system where it`s an eye for an eye and life sentances which mean life?
It`s no good releasing people who have killed in the past saying that they are fit to be rehabilitated into society only to have them kill again.
Come on, What would you people here, do and say if a member of your family or your child was affected by one of the types of criminals? would you still bang on about their " Rights" etc?
I`d burn the ****ing lot of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They wouldn`t reoffend then!

23-03-2005, 23:28

Oh dear.

Paul K · 23-03-2005, 23:35

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Originally Posted by andyl

Oh dear.

I take it you disagree then andyl? Maybe you should take this opportunity to give your views on the thoughts of budweiser.

**Damien** · 23-03-2005, 23:38

to be fair to andyl this same issue has come up before and we seem to go round in circles!

23-03-2005, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Paul

I take it you disagree then andyl? Maybe you should take this opportunity to give your views on the thoughts of budweiser.

Seems to be for a death penalty thread topic being pursued here whereas this thread.......

Besides I'm sure you don't really think I need to explain my views, not least because I have already stated them.