The Welfare State

[allieyoung666]

You are totally right, DLA is for the dole wallers the goverment want to hide as it makes the figures look good!!!!! If you tell the truth you get nothing, lie you get everything.

[Seti]

Hmm I think the miners had incapacity benefit Its a bit different to DLA. Incapacity benefit is something I can't get( would have £20 more a month) becasue I haven't paid enough tax !!

Alchies and druggies don't get any extra benefit. No Supplements, no nothing and believe me applying for a DLA award when yuo are a drug addict is next to impossible. Ask some of the people with mental health disorders who take hard, ilegal substances!! All they wil have is a tot of whisky supplie dby their nearest clinic or Pethedine or some other substance which supposedly allows them to come off the substance they are abusing. It is probably why alchies, druggies and people with mental health conditions make up most of our prison population.

Allie I've pm'd you.

Welfare is horrible to be on. It's even harder to actually get. As for the South Wales miners well some of them wil loose their benefits soon whether they have pnuemiconiosis or not. I stil ain't sure that they are on DLA though Maybe its me being stubborn.

A scary thought. The government is introducing new ways of means testing and applying Incapacity Benefit to those who claim it. This means that some people like those with cancer, neuro disorders and cardio-thoracic disorders wil be taken off the benefit system entirely. Why is that scary cos its another round of testing, being medically poked and prodded and generally made to feel as if you are a scrounger!!

Sian

P.S> Thanks for my greenies everyone !!!!

[allieyoung666]

I remember when Paul had a medical last year they were hitting his bad leg with a medical hammer, the poor guy was in tears and then she started making him do flex's which he cannot do. isnt the scar enough, he has another medical next week and he is dreading it and to be honest I cannot blame him!!!

Originally Posted by Seti

Hmm I think the miners had incapacity benefit

Sorry, you are right

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by andyl

Sorry, you are right

Yes, and some of them were fairly young who received it in my area. I would not argue what benefots they got, or what they were called, but they certainly didn't join the dole que.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Seti

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Scastle it isn't true that DLA amounts get affected by your work salary. You are given different rates, in some cases HIGHER, than you get when you aren't working. Oh and you can claim for transport costs etc.
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I was actually getting confused. I personally don't claim benefits, but my sister does. I obviously remember her DLA claim form wrongly (easily done, it's the size of a small book).


Good post BTW.

[Seti]

Originally Posted by allieyoung666

I remember when Paul had a medical last year they were hitting his bad leg with a medical hammer, the poor guy was in tears and then she started making him do flex's which he cannot do. isnt the scar enough, he has another medical next week and he is dreading it and to be honest I cannot blame him!!!

I ain't having a go but come on now Allie, as a qualified nurse you should know that reflexes have to be tested and part of the reflex test is to GENTLY smack the lower knee with a reflex hammer. Flex's are necessary to see the amount of impairment between legs. If he can't do them fine, she shouldn't force him but she has to have some idea of whats going on.

Take Paul to the Quacks and get him to give you a letter stating the current reflex level of Pauls

• ankle
• knee
• abdomen
• forearm
• biceps
• triceps

Also get the Dr to do a Babinksi test so that when you go for the medical with Paul so the Dr in the medical there knows what has been done and the STATE of Pauls condition. He doesn't really need a Babinski test its just to show the amount of nerve damage or muscle degredation in the area. AND it doesn't hurt. Especially if they use a feather ;-) he won't need his abdmen or upper torso checked either in reality but it SHOULD stop the medical examiner doing it at the interview shouldn't it !


Personally unless the muscle degradation is that bad I can not understand why she needed a reflex test in the beginnig. The state of flexing should have been enough of an indication. You know that most relex tests are done to judge the onset of peripheral neuropathyas well as localised nerve damage. I assume she was checking for localised nerve damage!! As i siad get the quack to do one first !! Take the results with you. If he refuses get Paul to tell him how scared, embarrassed whatever good descriptive words he can come up with to get your doctors sympathy.

PS I am still scanning your stuff !!