Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Computers & IT > General IT Discussion

Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 15-03-2005, 02:00   #31
Raistlin
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Services: Depends on the person and the price they're offering
Posts: 12,384
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by iron25
Select typical and don't edit any of the paths. You can do that at a later stage once it is installed.
Ok, trying that now.....

Have to uninstall and clear up the directories first.....

Stand by
Raistlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 15-03-2005, 02:03   #32
iron25
Inactive
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: nowhere
Posts: 718
iron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful one
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Ok, trying that now.....

Have to uninstall and clear up the directories first.....

Stand by
It's a good thing I'm a night person
iron25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:03   #33
Raistlin
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Services: Depends on the person and the price they're offering
Posts: 12,384
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Ok, that sorted it.

Apache now installed without any problems (phew).....

<reaches out and touches something wooden>

I think I'll leave the PHP bit and the rest of the sorting until tomorrow, unless there's anything else that I really must do tonight? I take it that simply having Apache running on the server won't make it less secure?
Raistlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:08   #34
iron25
Inactive
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: nowhere
Posts: 718
iron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful one
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Ok, that sorted it.

Apache now installed without any problems (phew).....

<reaches out and touches something wooden>

I think I'll leave the PHP bit and the rest of the sorting until tomorrow, unless there's anything else that I really must do tonight? I take it that simply having Apache running on the server won't make it less secure?
Having apache running will make it less secure. The fewer services running the more secure it will be, that's computers for you
__________________

Just found this on the web 'Night people are frequently considered lazy or undisciplined' That's not fair
iron25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:08   #35
Raistlin
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Services: Depends on the person and the price they're offering
Posts: 12,384
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Anything I can do now to help things a bit?

TBH I'm not too worried as it's sat behind my NAT router, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to come in here tomorrow and find it's been hijacked for <cackle> "Evil Purposes" </cackle>.
Raistlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:10   #36
iron25
Inactive
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: nowhere
Posts: 718
iron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful one
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Anything I can do now to help things a bit?
Yeah, disable the service
iron25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:11   #37
Raistlin
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Services: Depends on the person and the price they're offering
Posts: 12,384
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by iron25
Just found this on the web 'Night people are frequently considered lazy or undisciplined' That's not fair
I know my self professed tiredness may make it sound otherwise, but I am actually a Night Person myself. Unfortunately I've seen a few too many whole nights recently along with all of the daylight hours in between.

One day, through perseverance (and with the help of the lovely people here at CF) I hope to have a stable server that has been up longer than I have
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by iron25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Anything I can do now to help things a bit?
Yeah, disable the service
Just use the Apache control panel to switch it off you mean?
Raistlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:12   #38
iron25
Inactive
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: nowhere
Posts: 718
iron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful one
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Yes.
iron25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:14   #39
Raistlin
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Services: Depends on the person and the price they're offering
Posts: 12,384
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Nice one, will do.

Seriously, thanks for all your help.

I'll be back tomorrow (probably only during the day though - Mrs Raistlin will be about in the evening and will want some attention) to continue with the rest of this Saga

Cheers & G'night,

Raist
Raistlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:15   #40
iron25
Inactive
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: nowhere
Posts: 718
iron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful oneiron25 is the helpful one
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

night, night
iron25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 02:53   #41
slowcoach
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virgin Islands
Age: 81
Services: VM Phone 152 Meg.
Posts: 1,552
slowcoach has reached the bronze age
slowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze ageslowcoach has reached the bronze age
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

http://www.apachefriends.org/en/ have Windows/Linux/Mac Apache,PHP,MySQL installs which make it all a breeze, there is also information regarding making your site secure if you scroll down the download screen or visit their forum (English section is near the bottom of the forum list).

If you download the Windows installation file (as opposed to the zips) set the install directory to Drive:\ [space] you need to add a space for the install button to become active.
No directory changes are made to your system so you can just delete all the files to get rid.
The Windows version comes with the batch files to run Apache and MySQL as a program or a service, plus batch files to switch between PHP4 and 5.
PHP 5 installs by default.

The German guy and girl who put these compilations together are really dedicated, always including the latest versions.
slowcoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 07:49   #42
Richard M
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Age: 47
Posts: 6,343
Richard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze array
Richard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze arrayRichard M has a bronze array
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Sounds like you installed directly to c:/ Rais, when I said "change the root to c:" in the install it should have installed to c:/Apache2 or c:/Apache 2 instead of the default c:/Apache Group/Apache2.
It could be that the installer behaviour has changed recently though so maybe that document needs to be updated.
Richard M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 07:51   #43
Matthew
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lincolnshire
Age: 38
Posts: 2,033
Matthew has reached the bronze age
Matthew has reached the bronze ageMatthew has reached the bronze ageMatthew has reached the bronze ageMatthew has reached the bronze ageMatthew has reached the bronze ageMatthew has reached the bronze ageMatthew has reached the bronze age
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

For Remote Desktop use UltraVNC and you can set it up so you can connect from your internet browser, all you do is put in your ip:5800 and aslong as your router is setup ok it will work and from that you can launch the viewer on yoru server if you want to conenct into a machine within the network.
__________________
Matt
Matthew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 11:35   #44
Raistlin
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Services: Depends on the person and the price they're offering
Posts: 12,384
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Raistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered starsRaistlin is seeing silvered stars
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard M
Sounds like you installed directly to c:/ Rais, when I said "change the root to c:" in the install it should have installed to c:/Apache2 or c:/Apache 2 instead of the default c:/Apache Group/Apache2.
It could be that the installer behaviour has changed recently though so maybe that document needs to be updated.
Yep, uninstalled and re-installed, and it worked a treat it the new installation path.

Sorry, it was late last night and I am a bit of a

Right, PHP next
Raistlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-03-2005, 12:20   #45
Stuart
-
 
Stuart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Somewhere
Services: Virgin for TV and Internet, BT for phone
Posts: 26,546
Stuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver bling
Stuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver blingStuart has a lot of silver bling
Re: Server Questions - Anybody Feeling Brave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
1. I think (more for the sake of vanity than for any other reason) that I would like to be able to upload a sort of "Server Status Page" to the web (have web space so that's not an issue). The idea being that I could then browse to the page from anywhere and see if the server is up, how long it's been running without falling over, get some basic information from it etc.

Is this actually possible? What sort of software/setup would I need? Is it fairly easy to accomplish or am I trying to run before I can walk?
I used to use a program called Servers Alive for this. The nice thing about SA is its freeware (if you don't use it in a commercial environment), but it can query various kinds of servers in different ways. So, for instance, to test a web server, it can periodically call up a web page. For a Database (Oracle anyway, not sure off hand if it supports MySql, but I think it does), it can run a query against it.

It can also output to a server status page (using it's own predefined templates, or your own), as well as email you or text you if something dies.

The program (and tutorials) is at http://www.brentozar.com/salive/default.php

The program itself is at http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/download.asp

Not as much fun as writing something yourself, but a lot quicker..
Stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:31.


Server: lithium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum