Muslims should expect to be stopped....
15-03-2005, 02:46
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by Graham
This sort of behaviour happens in *many* groups as I said above, not just in asian/ Muslim communities as you mention.
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Great, so because I didn't mention every other ethnic group, in a thread about muslims, I'm obviously implying that it's only muslims this occurs with?
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15-03-2005, 02:49
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
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Originally Posted by Graham
This sort of behaviour happens in *many* groups as I said above, not just in asian/ Muslim communities as you mention.
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Great, so because I didn't mention every other ethnic group, in a thread about muslims, I'm obviously implying that it's only muslims this occurs with?
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<Sigh> Ladies and gentlemen, in my documents folder I have a sealed message with my prediction for the response to that message from Xaccers...
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15-03-2005, 02:50
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by Graham
Did I say that? No, I didn't. You're complaining I'm implying things into your messages that you didn't say, yet then you go and do exactly the same thing!
The point is that there is little love lost between many sections of the Jewish and Islamic communities. Picking a single example like that doesn't necessarily provide proof by any means.
ADDENDUM: PS thanks for the red rep based on your straw man argument! 
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No, you actually said:
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You're looking at a *Jewish* site for opinions about Muslims?
Great idea!
Now how about looking at a BNP site for opinions about Blacks? I'm sure you'll find more equally open minded and unbiased commentary on there...!!
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Equating a jewish site's content with that of the BNP and you don't expect to get a red rep for it???
Didn't a certain mayor cause great offence by suggesting a reporter's actions were similar to an anti-semetic group?
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15-03-2005, 02:52
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Equating a jewish site's content with that of the BNP
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How did I *know* you were going to jump on that one...?!
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Didn't a certain mayor cause great offence by suggesting a reporter's actions were similar to an anti-semetic group?
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You would have to ask Ken Livingstone about that, I don't speak for him.
Now excuse me, I'm going to bed.
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15-03-2005, 08:44
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
Sorry but due to work commitments I havent yet managed to say what my thoughts are.
If the thread is to be closed, I must protest that because of work I cannot post at the same time as others.
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Doesn't that breach your "human rights"?
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15-03-2005, 10:04
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
I think it might be time for some people to do some growing up. Some of the comments posted have been beyond puerile.
Has anyone got a point to make anymore?
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15-03-2005, 10:14
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by andyl
I think it might be time for some people to do some growing up. Some of the comments posted have been beyond puerile.
Has anyone got a point to make anymore?
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Just the one really. By the sound of things, this is going to happen anyway. It remains to be seen whether or not it works, and we shall never know if the alternatives would have been better or worse. But if it leads to the capture of one terrorist, or prevents a single atrocity, I believe it will all have been worthwhile.
I'm gone.
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15-03-2005, 14:19
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by Graham
I think you miss the point.
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No, since I made the point and you want to argue with it, it's you that's missing the point.
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So those are *some* things that *some* British people do. However they're not obligatory to be "British" are they? Nor are supporting Man Utd/ Liverpool/ Arsenal/ whoever, or watching cricket or going Morris Dancing or going to church on a Sunday or...
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First you ask me to describe the British indigenous culture, and then you want to argue against it on the basis of it being 'obligatory'. I didn't say it was, nor is cultural identity based things that are obligatory.
I sometimes think you only ask a question so that you can argue about someone's answer/opinion.
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I don't drink. I can't remember the last time I ate Roast Pork, does that make me "not British"? Of course not.
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Now you're being facetious.
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The point I was trying to make is not what *I* would necessarily do, but that there exist in many cultures/ groups "rules" that you don't drop your mates in the cacky. I also didn't say that it was a good thing.
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Really? let me remind you:
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And you don't grass your mates up to the Police, teacher, whoever, no matter whether you're black, white, asian or anything else.
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That sounds very much like your opinion, rather than your opinion on another culture/group.
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Originally Posted by andyl
Has anyone got a point to make anymore?
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Not when it is impossible to stay on topic because someone continually takes the discussion off at a tangent.
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15-03-2005, 14:34
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
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I have snipped the majority of your post because there is nothing on topic to reply to, but there are a couple of points I wish to address:
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And you don't grass your mates up to the Police, teacher, whoever, no matter whether you're black, white, asian or anything else.
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That sounds very much like your opinion, rather than your opinion on another culture/group.
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In which case you have, once again, missed my point.
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Has anyone got a point to make anymore?
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Not when it is impossible to stay on topic because someone continually takes the discussion off at a tangent.
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Paging messers Pott and Kettle-Black...
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15-03-2005, 14:53
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....
I think we have all just about had enough of this topic now - it's pretty much going round in circles with lots of petty personal remarks and reps. Time to move on. Thread closed.
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