*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by scrotnig

As with so many other walks of life, we get precisely what we deserve in this country because too many of us are greedy, selfish morons.

Dammit, stop making so much sense. People will begin to think you don't actually work for Ntl

[darkmage46]

I'm thinking of going for the upgrade from 300k to 1meg and cap be damned, i dont think ill ever hit the cap but i'm betting in NTL figuring out that just raising everyone to 2meg as the base will save money in the long run as they can stop looking for all those 1megers going over the cap and having to harass them to upgrade
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by the way - is the cap going to be a rolling total or is it going to be reset every month

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by cr80123

Well I don't dispute that Ignition may have a lot of knowledge, I'd just like to see that backed up becuase franky all I've seen from you is bull****.

Your first two reasons I agree with, the second two are nonsense, the fifth one is completely contrary to what all the pro-cap people are claiming (i.e. if you have 3 computers networked you should pay for it), and your sixth one is complete and utter rubbish.
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And I'm going to bed!

I think that your response illustrates quite well the futility of trying to reason with you.

So, nobody uses any apps that need high bandwidth that they use at odd times now and again. Do you know what every user does with their connection and what apps they use?

Is it nonsense to say that some users need the upload speed and aren't too bothered about the download speed. There are many on here that would disagree with that. What about gamers who want to host games? What about people that want to upload many pictures or videos quite regularly but don't want to download verymuch at all. Don't these people exist?

Why is having 3 computers networked which at odd rare times need the 3Mb contrary to what the pro-cap people are saying. There are many people with more than one computer networked that have a usage level below the caps. My brother has three computers networked which are often all used at the same time but the kids are limited in the time they are allowed to spend at their computers and this is nothing to do with capping. I still stand by the idea that having more than one computer connected is no reason for having a larger cap and that such usage should cost more if they are using more bandwidth than a single user.

So you think that saying most broadband customers only use their connection for a few hours daily and are not tied to it 24/7 is complete and utter rubbish. I think that you must be living in cloud cuckoo land.

[samuelnw53]

As a silver surfer who is trying hard to understand this Capping issue, i listen to internet radio a lot so what does 1g per day relate to with things like that?

[obvious]

Well apparently ntl have blocked programs like DocsDiag from seeing just how under utilised their network is. ntl no longer permit SNMP access to the ISP-side addresses of cable modems, so the -traffic facility of DocsDiag will no longer work.

The upshot is that if ntl say that a customer is degrading the network due to excessive use then that customer no longer has any way of defending themselves.....except maybe if a customer is accused of downloading at 100% line speed for hours on end this in itself could be used as proof that the network is not congested otherwise how would they be able to consistently manage 100% usage on a contended network?

Just thinking out loud.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by samuelnw53

As a silver surfer who is trying hard to understand this Capping issue, i listen to internet radio a lot so what does 1g per day relate to with things like that?

Why not just install a bandwidth monitoring program like NetMeter, and you can see how much you use each day.

[obvious]

Originally Posted by samuelnw53

As a silver surfer who is trying hard to understand this Capping issue, i listen to internet radio a lot so what does 1g per day relate to with things like that?

You would have to listen to most internet radio stations for 24hours a day to go over 1GB. If all you're doing is surfing, email and a bit of internet radio then you've got nothing to worry about.

[darkmage46]

its proibably all bluff and bluster anyway - how many people did ntl contact about going over the previous cap?
that said - the trend seems to be to increase speed while lowering the amount of data you can transfer - anybody like to extrapolate how long before were all on 25meg connections with a 1.44 megabyte per mont cap? no contested areas then i guess

[th'engineer]

Originally Posted by Bill C

So you havent got a clue, your just a troll who found his way from under the bridge. Well i will not be feeding you anymore, I have far better things to do on a sunday night.

Now where is that ignore button

You need to calm down Bill

[Nemesis]

Created a nice fresh new thread for you here.