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Old 12-03-2005, 21:29   #1291
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Someone tell NTL that their CAPs are too small and we're all goin to Wanadoo

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Old 12-03-2005, 21:56   #1292
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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Someone tell NTL that their CAPs are too small and we're all goin to Wanadoo

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Good idea! Now where is the address for the Chairman of NTL?

However there is one snag with that.The members of Cable Forum are just a drop in the bucket that represents all of NTL customers,most of whom have no idea about this offer and all the other issues involved.Maybe we should be telling the OTHER customers of NTL instead?Then instead of a tiny minority the majority of NTL customers might be persuaded to tell NTL their CAP is too small.
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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Someone tell NTL that their CAPs are too small and we're all goin to Wanadoo
If your moving to Wanadoo you wanadoo a little thinking on cost Link as they seem to be singing from the same script regarding caps plus they are more expensive and you will have to have a BT line

I think the 1Mb connection is a little tight and should be increased, but thatâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s my personal opinion. The 367Gb allocated to my account per year, I will wait and see if it causes me problems with NTL asking me to amend the bandwidth used with my little network of three computers that have access to the Internet.
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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Someone tell NTL that their CAPs are too small and we're all goin to Wanadoo

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If you wanna go to wannadoo best read this thread here and these here I will pass on moving to wannadoo the phrase from the frying pan to the fire comes to mind
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Old 12-03-2005, 23:41   #1295
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This has now become a joke due to the Ping being through the roof, I cannot beleive this is not tied into the speed upgrades and people insisting on downloading the entire internet by tea time. My ping was always stable untill the upgrades. This has made me realise that Capping should be brought in and bloody soon.
If capping is brought in you will be thrown off too, online gaming uses alot of bandwidth.

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If you wanna go to wannadoo best read this thread here and these here I will pass on moving to wannadoo the phrase from the frying pan to the fire comes to mind
Read it - it seems like Wanadoo is no worse than NTL Having said that I'm very pleased with my NTL 2Mb and I don't mind listening to that lovely Pan Pipe music for half an hour or so when I ring NTL customer services. Lets face it - if we all did that we wouldn't have to download so many MP3's - just ring NTL and listen to theirs. That would save on the downloads and keep us from goin over the cap limit!!!

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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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If capping is brought in you will be thrown off too, online gaming uses alot of bandwidth.

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My online gaming doesnt use that much bandwidth i have been monitoring it since the capping was talked about. Now i used to be a serious power user and i do mean serious. I never really thought about the impact my usage was having on other users. I used to download a lot of dvd stuff from usenet so 20 gig in just over a day and a half was nothing to me. But as i have stated i have had a change of heart over this one and if my activities cause NTL to contact me then i will take action to alter my usage. I fail to see how people can legaaly download 10 gig+ a day and the last time i looked it did not state in the NTL AUP that they condone the downloading of illegal materials. I am not saying that is what everyone is doing but to pull off over 10 gig a day is defintely suspect i know i used to do it.
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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Read it - it seems like Wanadoo is no worse than NTL Having said that I'm very pleased with my NTL 2Mb and I don't mind listening to that lovely Pan Pipe music for half an hour or so when I ring NTL customer services. Lets face it - if we all did that we wouldn't have to download so many MP3's - just ring NTL and listen to theirs. That would save on the downloads and keep us from goin over the cap limit!!!
Do you have to keep spamming your website in every post?
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

I installed PRTG to monitor Useage at my CM level as I'm on a router and BW-Meter etc would give me false readings. Now my sum total of what I did tonight was bascially browse some web sites, had a game of MOHAA + CoD:UO, all that time was chatting on Skype and grabbed a 155MB demo. Now looking at the numbers I have used 482Megs??? (counting both Downloads and Uploads) - I am not sure how / If ntl will count your Useage when/if they bring in a harder cap later this year, but goes to show you really that general web chatter and useage is already half way there, this not been a full day monitoring.

Now Reading up on BT, may 2005 they bring in a Hard cap, have a web site to check how much you have used and email you when you hit 75% useage. I wonder if NTL will follow suit (as they seem to) and also do this at about the same time??
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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Do you have to keep spamming your website in every post?
To be fair you do SPAM ntl's products in almost every one of your posts.
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To be fair you do SPAM ntl's products in almost every one of your posts.
No I don't. I discuss them.

This being an ntl-related website, I don't think that's a problem.

If I shoved a link to ntl's website in every single one of my posts, then it arguably might be.
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Please...... you're a living promotional campaign for ntl's products. Nevermind I couldn't resist.
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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My online gaming doesnt use that much bandwidth i have been monitoring it since the capping was talked about. Now i used to be a serious power user and i do mean serious. I never really thought about the impact my usage was having on other users. I used to download a lot of dvd stuff from usenet so 20 gig in just over a day and a half was nothing to me. But as i have stated i have had a change of heart over this one and if my activities cause NTL to contact me then i will take action to alter my usage. I fail to see how people can legaaly download 10 gig+ a day and the last time i looked it did not state in the NTL AUP that they condone the downloading of illegal materials. I am not saying that is what everyone is doing but to pull off over 10 gig a day is defintely suspect i know i used to do it.

You don't have to be doing anything illegal or even slightly suspect to break the 1GB barrier. A lot of games use wemcams and microphones, that coupled with the game data and your starting to use a fair bit of bandwidth. Now give it 12 months and that game bandwidth will be doubled or possibly even trippled. (or more)

It wasn't that long ago when 1GB was A LOT of data, I remember getting my first 20mb harddisc (not a typo) and thinking WOW I'm never going to fill all that space, I also remember getting Windows on 4 floppy discs, but times change very very quickly, and nowadays 1GB isn't that much at all.

60 minutes of download time.
12% of a DVD
A few game demo's
1/400th of new hard disc.
1 or 2 hours of live video.
20 mins of DVD quality video.

It won't be long until 1GB seems like a floppy disc worth of data, and even the lamest of internet users will be using WAY more than 1GB per day.

Personally I think It's very sad that a major ISP such as NTL are bringing in caps, especially when really cool technologies such as broadband TV are just starting to take off.

The internet was only born yesterday, lets not kill it before it even gets a chance to crawl.

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Please...... you're a living promotional campaign for ntl's products. Nevermind I couldn't resist.
If you search my posts you'll find I'm critical when it's justified.

It's common for anyone who dares to disagree with the anti-cap brigade to be accused of having some sort of agenda.
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Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

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It's common for anyone who dares to disagree with the anti-cap brigade to be accused of having some sort of agenda.
Same as it's common for the anti-cap brigade to be badged as warez whores
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