Hope they cleared up after them.....

[BBKing]

Presumably it's someone else's land that Escapee has a right of access through to get to his property - any good lawyer should make sure that he had access rights when he bought his property (the legal term for what happens when the lawyer is asleep on the job is 'buying a helipad'). Hence the TA were in the wrong, and Escapee was perfectly right to tell them to **** off and contact Plod to report them for obstruction.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Zeph

How's that work Xaccers, its his land isnt it he's talking about!?

The owner of the land gives permission to Escapee to pass because Escapee needs to to get to his house.
The owner also gives the TA permission to be on the land but neglects to inform them that there are other members of the public (such as Escapee) who also have access.
The TA meet Escapee on private land which they believe to be the only ones with permission to be on, treat him badly and as a tresspasser or however they treated him.
Escapee has a right to be there, and a right of passage, therefore the TA have no right to prevent him doing this and so was able to get the police to put the TA in their place
The fault of the mixup lies with whoever neglected to inform the TA who set up the road block that they did not have permission to do so.

If you or I had tried to pass as just members of the general public then the TA would have been able to stop us as we'd be tresspassers.

[allieyoung666]

We were doing a major exercise a couple of years ago near York and there was a girl guide camp right in the middle of our exercise!!!!!! And when we told the guide leader, so look rather embarrised, but asked us if we would like some of the girls to help in the mock battle!!!!!

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

The owner of the land gives permission to Escapee to pass because Escapee needs to to get to his house.
The owner also gives the TA permission to be on the land but neglects to inform them that there are other members of the public (such as Escapee) who also have access.
The TA meet Escapee on private land which they believe to be the only ones with permission to be on, treat him badly and as a tresspasser or however they treated him.
Escapee has a right to be there, and a right of passage, therefore the TA have no right to prevent him doing this and so was able to get the police to put the TA in their place
The fault of the mixup lies with whoever neglected to inform the TA who set up the road block that they did not have permission to do so.

If you or I had tried to pass as just members of the general public then the TA would have been able to stop us as we'd be tresspassers.

The owner of the land hadn't given the TA rights to use it, the land was owned by a private company and a few years after the incident was bought by the local council. The deeds to our property dating back to 1835 gave access across this lane that was owned by the private steelworks.

The steelworks closed before nationalisation, and the company retained ownership of the land even though they had no other operations in this area. The TA just acted as though they could do as they pleased, I had an ex-GF who was in the TA and she said it is common, they were always paying out compensation for damage during excersizes, they would drive through any land they wanted and sort out the legalities at a later date.

On another interesting point, the local police has/had (not sure up to date) a firing/shooting practice on the mountainside. The area was not sealed off and there was a big fuss from people walking across a path through the middle of it. one of my friends at the time said there were branches with bits shot off all over the place, and there was no way of telling the un-official site was in use, apart from hearing the shots. I am not sure if it was an official thing or just some police shooting club, possibly just shotguns.