UK General Election 2005

[molly]

i haven't voted in years and don't intend to they all pee in the same pot
there all the same
bring back mrs thatcher

[punky]

on the Politics Show, they have been explaining LibDems tax policy, and how some of the working class that need the most help (nurses, teachers) will pay more when council tax is abolished, and that the LibDems have devised a ridicluous number of new taxes, including a dog tax!! What the...

[keithwalton]

I most certainly wont be voting for labour due to them helping me become poor (abolishing of grants, student fees etc). Sadly they dont have much of a sizeable oposition but whoever is the strongest near the time is where i'll hedge my vote be it libdem or more likely conservative. whoever it is labour must be outed before they ruin this country further

Originally Posted by Bifta

I'm not sure how it works with voting over here but if Blunkett doesn't start grounding himself in reality I won't be voting Labour.

Not sure how the backbench MP for Sheffield Brightside is going to ingratiate himself with you Bifta
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Originally Posted by punky

on the Politics Show, they have been explaining LibDems tax policy, and how some of the working class that need the most help (nurses, teachers) will pay more when council tax is abolished, and that the LibDems have devised a ridicluous number of new taxes, including a dog tax!! What the...

The Lib Dems want council tax to be replaced by a local income tax. Sounds sensible. They want to raise the Stamp Duty threshold significantly to help first time buyers. Sounds sensible. They want a 50p rate of income tax on earnings over £100 pa. Sounds sensible. Charles Kennedy allegedly likes a drink. Sounds sensible.
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Originally Posted by andygrif

I empathise with this view, but I don't agree with it on the basis that it is a demorcratic right not to vote.

If people were not voting as some sort of protest, then I could understand, but the fact is that they are simply apethetic to the whole process - simply believing that anyone in power is someone to moan about.

This is partially the fault of the politicians and partially the fault of the non-voters.

One thing I particularly feel is that non-voters shouldn't really complain about the leaders of the day.

Voting should be compulsory but you should be allowed to spoil your paper (which would make for an interesting election night).
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Originally Posted by punky

Very. It is looking like at the moment, the main opposition parties will be the Lib Dems and Labour. Great. Liberals vs socialists. How can two left wing parties really oppose each other? There is not enough difference.

Two left wing parties? Where?!
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Originally Posted by Damien

Why tories anyway? The NHS was got triple its funding since 1997..My dads What have they done that so bad?

Iraq. Tuition fees. Two tier health service. House arrest/detention without trial. Removal of right to jury. Indirect taxation. SATS.
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

This is perhaps the most depressing poll i have ever seen - i cant understand why anyone would vote conservative at the moment. I can understand why not to vote labour but why vote for conservative?

The main reason appears to be to keep coloured people out the country. Sadly this seems to have a fair amount of appeal in our prodly 'tolerant' country!

I chose I will not voting since I can't vote

Originally Posted by Paul M

Yes, I'll do it in a minute, first here are the results so you can look back after the reset.

Now I know why I get into such heated debates on CF

[nffc]

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Tories without a doubt. The way Labour treat students is utter vile, and I would love to see that fu*king smug smile wiped off Blair's face.

Originally Posted by andyl

The main reason appears to be to keep coloured people out the country. Sadly this seems to have a fair amount of appeal in our prodly 'tolerant' country!

Unfortunately, you're probably right.

Interesting results here from a recent poll:

Originally Posted by http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=aG49wjr0QSaE&refer=uk

A YouGov Ltd. poll of 1,965 voters interviewed online between Jan. 25 and 27 put Blair's Labour party support unchanged from December on 35 percent, the Conservatives up two on 34 percent and the Liberal Democrats up one on 22 percent. No margin of error was given in the poll, which was published in the Daily Telegraph.

Only 1% difference!

Originally Posted by Mick

I've touched up the poll to include further options.

how about a "Havent decided" option?

[Shaun]

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Tories without a doubt. The way Labour treat students is utter vile, and I would love to see that fu*king smug smile wiped off Blair's face.

And you think the Tory's will be any better, pull the other one, its got blue bells on!

Originally Posted by dellwear

And you think the Tory's will be any better, pull the other one, its got blue bells on!

Hmm well for a start there will be no tuition fees so that's a few thousand pound difference in student debt already...

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by dellwear

And you think the Tory's will be any better, pull the other one, its got blue bells on!

That's the problem this country has at the moment, the number of people voting is falling due to one major reason.... both of the main parties are as bad as each other at holding to promises, neither has managed to create the definitive government whilst in power and to be quite honest all they seem to care about at the moment is scoring points off each other.
If either of these parties were seen to be better, more trustworthy or even just different to the other then we would have a deluge of voting at this election, somehow I doubt it. The tories screwed up royally towards the end of their run, the people voted them out because of one reason, they were sick and tired of them. Now Labour is in power and people are losing faith in them, they may squeak another term or they may find themselves having to move Tony out of number 10, either way this country is going to see no magic wand being waved to produce instant results as it has suffered too many years of bad politics caused by inhouse fighting, silly mistakes and snap/ knee jerk decisions on policy

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Diamond

Hmm well for a start there will be no tuition fees so that's a few thousand pound difference in student debt already...

You think, an where's the money for that coming from? I've not seen any election pledges, and even if I had I'd prolly not believe it, they're not known for sticking to them.

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by Diamond

Hmm well for a start there will be no tuition fees so that's a few thousand pound difference in student debt already...

So who will be paying for the tuition then? Where is that extra money going to come from? Maybe the tories have checked down the sides of their collective sofas and found a secret stash of money that no-one knew of?