16-02-2005, 16:09
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
The way i say it as the users have been left behind in advancing speeds; ntl want to market the 1mb product to light users, now when we've all come from a time when dial-up was the norm it seems pretty fast to us, and would suffice.
So now increasing the speeds, alot will find their service fast enough from what we've got used to, and will stay put or downgrade, this has to be where the caps have been introduced, to stop this.
I do think 56k speeds are harsh though, unacceptable tbh. It should be at least 150k; 56k is a punishment and you are just about limited to browsing.
Don't know if anybody read BT's capping policy
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This is suitable for the vast majority of users.
BT will not apply this usage allowance until Spring 2005. After this date, if your monthly usage allowance limit is exceeded, you will have the choice of a restricted service for the remainder of the month, or the option to buy additional usage capacity.
BT will confirm prices for additional usage nearer the time. Indicative prices are £2 per additional GB, although
BT plans to develop options which could make this even less.
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I guess its good they are giving you a choice (though restricted could mean many things) but .....
£2 per gb?
You got to be ****ing kidding me.
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16-02-2005, 16:13
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#632
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by orangebird
Am I missing something? Have ntl stated that you'll go to 56k if you hit the limit? 
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It's in the announcement on the front page of this site, not confirmed, but thought likely.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...eases-update-3
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16-02-2005, 16:20
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#633
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by PC_Arcade
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I'd like to know who the reliable source is on that....
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16-02-2005, 16:23
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#634
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
Are you saying it's not the case then?
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16-02-2005, 16:36
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#635
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by PC_Arcade
Are you saying it's not the case then?
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I'm not saying either way, as I don't know.
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16-02-2005, 16:40
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#636
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
I'm thinking of switching to AOL's 512K service soon. Not totally sure though.
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16-02-2005, 16:49
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
Dont u get the middle service of ntl if u get aol through ntl? i thought that u got 750k if u got aol now....and soon to be 2mbit.
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16-02-2005, 17:11
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by Robc66
Dont u get the middle service of ntl if u get aol through ntl? i thought that u got 750k if u got aol now....and soon to be 2mbit.
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Nope. According to AOL, you actually get a 1 Meg connection for your £24.99 (Just looked it up for Scott )
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16-02-2005, 17:25
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
A few points on the voting:
Members on here probably have an average usage level higher than that of the service as a whole which can skew the thinking.
Some have voted yes they will leave NTL if capped but is this just an attempt to make NTL think they are on a loser with the caps and to get them to increase them. I cannot see anyone who is getting a good broadband experience with NTL and with a usage pattern that is within the caps leaving. Most clued up members will have ascertained their usage pattern and will know if the caps are likely to affect them.
Some have voted maybe but again this could be for the same reasons as those that have voted yes.
Some customers have a usage pattern which is way over the top of the caps that have been announced. These may probably leave for pastures new but this could be to NTLs advantage even if they are taking all three services and move them all away from NTL.
Voting has been carried out based on assumptions of what is going to happen. These assumptions may well prove to be correct but nothing is set in stone until full details are released. Who knows what options may be available at the time of implementation to cater for the various types of internet user. Likewise, who knows what restrictions ADSL suppliers may introduce if faced with an influx of the masses of high usage customers that some are saying will leave NTL.
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16-02-2005, 17:25
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by Robc66
i will be leaving if they cap me....i will switch to aol through ntl :-). And it is cheaper lol
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no its not. look at the cable prices not the adsl
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16-02-2005, 17:32
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by Bill C
no its not. look at the cable prices not the adsl
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The AOL site does say that their broadband gold service is available to those with a BT line or in a NTL cabled area and has a speed of upto 1Mbps for £24.99 pm. There is no different price stated for cable.
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16-02-2005, 17:33
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#642
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
well peeps either you carry on complaining and banging your heads on a brick wall and live with it or go hunting for a better ISP without the cap I know what I be doing end of march  got mine sortet in the pipe line for 2mb no caps for 29.99
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16-02-2005, 17:53
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by ianathuth
A few points on the voting:
Members on here probably have an average usage level higher than that of the service as a whole which can skew the thinking.
Some have voted yes they will leave NTL if capped but is this just an attempt to make NTL think they are on a loser with the caps and to get them to increase them. I cannot see anyone who is getting a good broadband experience with NTL and with a usage pattern that is within the caps leaving. Most clued up members will have ascertained their usage pattern and will know if the caps are likely to affect them.
Some have voted maybe but again this could be for the same reasons as those that have voted yes.
Some customers have a usage pattern which is way over the top of the caps that have been announced. These may probably leave for pastures new but this could be to NTLs advantage even if they are taking all three services and move them all away from NTL.
Voting has been carried out based on assumptions of what is going to happen. These assumptions may well prove to be correct but nothing is set in stone until full details are released. Who knows what options may be available at the time of implementation to cater for the various types of internet user. Likewise, who knows what restrictions ADSL suppliers may introduce if faced with an influx of the masses of high usage customers that some are saying will leave NTL.
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There were members on here "at least 5 that i remember Some involved with anti cap uk." and who are still on here, who stated when the first cap was introduced that they would leave and go to bt and adsl. Guess what they are still here and still saying they will leave  . So should be interesting to see in say 2 months who is still here and who has had the ball's to do what they said they would do.
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Originally Posted by ianathuth
The AOL site does say that their broadband gold service is available to those with a BT line or in a NTL cabled area and has a speed of upto 1Mbps for £24.99 pm. There is no different price stated for cable.
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Funny i was sure the price was differant. But hey what do i know  I am just a muppet according to some
allso this from there site
Can I get AOL Broadband? 512k service
To get AOL Broadband 512k you need to have either a BT phone line or live in an ntl broadband-enabled area. AOL Broadband access is also subject to local availability and capacity levels, survey and landlord's permission, if applicable. To check if broadband is available where you live, please use our availability checker.
1Mb Service
To get the 1Mb AOL Broadband product you must have a BT phone line. Broadband access is also subject to local availability and capacity levels and line survey. To check if you can get the 1Mb product, please contact our Call Centre on 0800 376 4406. If you cannot get 1Mb, you may still be able to get the 512K.
1 Megabit (Mb) service
AOL also offers a 1Mb service. However, this is only currently available if you have a BT telephone line.
this page
http://www.aol.co.uk/broadband/faqs.html
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16-02-2005, 18:05
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by Bill C
There were members on here "at least 5 that i remember Some involved with anti cap uk." and who are still on here, who stated when the first cap was introduced that they would leave and go to bt and adsl. Guess what they are still here and still saying they will leave  . So should be interesting to see in say 2 months who is still here and who has had the ball's to do what they said they would do.
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Why does this keep getting dragged back up? You realise NTL don't actively cap any connections as of posting this?
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16-02-2005, 18:10
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