*ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please - Page 5

Ignition · 19-01-2005, 04:39

I'm finding you increasingly hard to take seriously. Considering this is your first posts and you instantly come out with that stuff I really can't take anything you are saying seriously, and I really hope that none of the members here are either.

I'd rather not be dealing with people who are disappointed at not being upgraded because some bloke on a forum told them they would be.

Just to emphasise again for the confused no official rollout of the tier uplift has begun in any way shape or form at this time. It's 'coming soon'

etccarmageddon · 19-01-2005, 05:27

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Originally Posted by HD462

...The upload speed isn't that good only being upped to 256k from 128k..

the upload speeds aren't going to be increased.

19-01-2005, 07:50

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

the upload speeds aren't going to be increased.

So if I *WAS* to go onto the 1MB upgrade, I would be stuck with 64k upload? Errr, I would rather stick with my 300K and 1GB per day if that's the case

daxx · 19-01-2005, 08:31

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Originally Posted by thomson

If I find that ntl have been lying to me on the phone (which i doubt), I will first of all make a complaint to trading standards

just make sure that your recording of the conversation is time date stamped and you have either issued the standard disclaimer at the start of the conversation or your equipment puts the annoying beep every 30 seconds onto the line/recording otherwise you wont have a leg to stand on anything you say 'they said' is merely hearsay.

Alternatively insist that NTL record the conversation and send you an unaltered copy (as if

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etccarmageddon · 19-01-2005, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Scott

So if I *WAS* to go onto the 1MB upgrade, I would be stuck with 64k upload? Errr, I would rather stick with my 300K and 1GB per day if that's the case

sorry! I agree, when you look at it like that it does appear a bit out of step with the download speed.

ian@huth · 19-01-2005, 10:22

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

sorry! I agree, when you look at it like that it does appear a bit out of step with the download speed.

For most of the customers on the lower tier it doen't matter that the upload speed is not being increased. The 1Mb will allow them to download a large file quicker and the 64k upload is quite capable of supporting that. You have to look at who the lower tier is aimed at and the type of use this group are likely to have. The lower speed is not being marketed as a cheap method of getting a 24/7 power user type of service.

Kevin · 19-01-2005, 10:50

Yeah but the 64k speed makes 1mb with xbox live almost unusable...

jtwn · 19-01-2005, 11:20

Yes, but surely if ntl offer an xbox service on the the middle tier they will expect you on that, with the 128k ul?

bucketbakereturn · 19-01-2005, 11:20

My only question (and i have searched) is will my Terrajet SACM in original NTL(Belfast) require changing 'when' the speed upgrades occur?

AS for the rest, well yes its a good point to say why are we paying ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£25 for this considering what we pay on a monthly basis (yes thru choice). But this is NTL not Telewest (and they're not the same yet), and although i'll admit to bein the teensiest bit jealous of the Twest customers i'm afraid we are with a company who have had to take major and drastic steps just to remain solvent and its a good bet they're far from good yet. But here they are still going, stil moving forward, bringing online the kind of services that show the full potential of cable and about to become one of the biggest providers in the country.

i don't want BT and i don't want Sky (if they would only get rid of the need for the dish i'd use them, but then they'd be cable!), so this is my choice.

And i'd be grateful if someone would answer the question at the top before i put my penneth worth in.

etccarmageddon · 19-01-2005, 11:47

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Originally Posted by ianathuth

For most of the customers on the lower tier it doen't matter that the upload speed is not being increased. The 1Mb will allow them to download a large file quicker and the 64k upload is quite capable of supporting that. You have to look at who the lower tier is aimed at and the type of use this group are likely to have. The lower speed is not being marketed as a cheap method of getting a 24/7 power user type of service.

yes but when you compare it to comparible ADSL products that Wandaoo and others offer (i.e. high speed, under ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 a month and small monthly GB allowance).........

- do those products have such a low upload speed?

quadplay · 19-01-2005, 11:50

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Originally Posted by bucketbakereturn

My only question (and i have searched) is will my Terrajet SACM in original NTL(Belfast) require changing 'when' the speed upgrades occur?

Nope - Terayon Terajet TJ210 cable modems are capable of handling around 28Mbit downstream (I think - though I'm sure Ignition will correct me

). This is limited, however, by the connection to the PC - 10Mbps Ethernet or 11Mbps USB. In any case, they can certainly handle 3Mbps, so no change will be needed.

bucketbakereturn · 19-01-2005, 11:57

Cheers for that, but the capable bit are u just hedgin ur bets until corrected

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quadplay · 19-01-2005, 12:00

No, just wanted to make sure no-one started a rumour that speeds were going to be increased to that level!

HD462 · 19-01-2005, 14:11

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

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Originally Posted by HD462

...The upload speed isn't that good only being upped to 256k from 128k..

the upload speeds aren't going to be increased.

According to the announcment made by NTLs Cheif Exec last Nov they are, and that's also what I've heard on the various other forums I visit. Leaving it at 128k (what my uplaod currently is with 750k download) when you're on a 2mb download would be daft.

I was speaking to someone in Broandband Tech Support on Friday tea-time at the speed upgrade, as I wondered if you had to register for it, or whether it would happen automatically. He reckoned he didn't know what I was talking about (might have been pretending they didn't know to keep things hush-hush for now). I told him about the speed increases quoted etc and he went off and asked someone. While he was away I remembered the article I'd read on The Register quoting Simon Duffy, the NTL Chief Exec. When he came back on the phone he reckoned no-one there knew anything about it, so I gave him the address of the webpage (click The Register link above), to show him.

He didn't have an answer, just saying to keep watching the ntlworld website for news. But the announcement has been made already, so I don't know why they'd deny it.
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Sorry, that link was to the announcement of the new download speeds, it doesn't mention the upload speed. I've seen it somewhere else, but can't remember at the moment.

Tristan · 19-01-2005, 14:36

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Originally Posted by jimbo

Nope - Terayon Terajet TJ210 cable modems are capable of handling around 28Mbit downstream (I think - though I'm sure Ignition will correct me

). This is limited, however, by the connection to the PC - 10Mbps Ethernet or 11Mbps USB. In any case, they can certainly handle 3Mbps, so no change will be needed.

38Mbps for EuroDOCSIS

Actually, you've hit upon something here. As speeds get faster, more and more strain is going to be put on USB connections. The more data that flows through the USB port, the more work the processor has to do. If it can't keep up, then the data connection is going to slow down. It won't be long I think before NTL start saying that ethernet is *required* for connections above a certain level (and this probably isn't a bad thing).