9pm curfew

[paulyoung666]

this seems like a good idea to me , could do with it around here as well

[Chimaera]

I want one of those for our chav population!! Where can I get one please?

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Chimaera

I want one of those for our chav population!! Where can I get one please?

apply to your local council in quadriplicate i think

[Chimaera]

No chance of getting one then - I work in the same area as our Community Safety group - and a more inneffectual, lazy, idle, workshy bunch of idiots I have yet to meet.
Hope yours works in your area though!

[Ramrod]

What a brilliant idea!

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

this seems like a good idea to me , could do with it around here as well

Ahhhhh. I so wish they'd bring back public floggings and national service. Nothing like sending uselrss like waste's of space of to parts foreign as a meat shield, to bring a bit of social responsibility to the current generation of lazy, idol wasters.

What a joke! Parhaps we should put a ban on all men after 9pm to stop rape? All muslims should be banned from tall bulidings in case they blow it up? Wheres the benfit of punishing everyone because of a tiny minority?

This is a stupid way to cut down on what it is, I admit, a problem. There is no doubt that something needs to be done but this is not the way.

1. It will increase the resentment of the police by younger people
2. It wonââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t work as the curfew will be broken by the young

Round where i live they have closed the tennis courts that were always full of young people playing sports. They were closed to start an adult club (which is only on Sundays, and during the week they lock it). Then the sports centre was closed because it was no longer a valuable resource to the tax-payer (young people used it all the time, not adults). A cinema was going to be built! But no, the older members of the community did not want it and protested.

Everywhere is the same. Those in charge CLOSE down the few valuable activities that youth have. They close down the parks, the centres, and stop with all their might any new idea to help keep youth entertained. All the other alternatives for youths are slowly being taken away. So stop complaining when youths turn to violence and drink because thatâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s all there is left to do.

Want a way to stop Anti-social behaviour? Open and fund new ways to entertain youths instead of closing down places and funding stupid ideas like this.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Damien

What a joke! Parhaps we should put a ban on all men after 9pm to stop rape? All muslims should be banned from tall bulidings in case they blow it up? Wheres the benfit of punishing everyone because of a tiny minority?

This is a stupid way to cut down on what it is, I admit, a problem. There is no doubt that something needs to be done but this is not the way.

1. It will increase the resentment of the police by younger people
2. It wonââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t work as the curfew will be broken by the young

Round where i live they have closed the tennis courts that were always full of young people playing sports. They were closed to start an adult club (which is only on Sundays, and during the week they lock it). Then the sports centre was closed because it was no longer a valuable resource to the tax-payer (young people used it all the time, not adults). A cinema was going to be built! But no, the older members of the community did not want it and protested.

Everywhere is the same. Those in charge CLOSE down the few valuable activities that youth have. They close down the parks, the centres, and stop with all their might any new idea to help keep youth entertained. All the other alternatives for youths are slowly being taken away. So stop complaining when youths turn to violence and drink because thatâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s all there is left to do.

Want a way to stop Anti-social behaviour? Open and fund new ways to entertain youths instead of closing down places and funding stupid ideas like this.

good points but you have to start somewhere , do you really understand how much of a nuisance ppl ( i use the term loosely ) can be ??????? , or do you live somewhere where this is not a problem ???????

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

good points but you have to start somewhere , do you really understand how much of a nuisance ppl ( i use the term loosely ) can be ??????? , or do you live somewhere where this is not a problem ???????

Yes, I do. THose areas are horrible and I agree that it needs to be addressed. But the problems core is at the lack of alternatives for youths rather than a lack of laws. Target the problem, not the symptoms

[aliferste]

"A powerful dispersal order and curfew is being slapped on Middlesbrough's Gresham ward to ban youths from gathering in groups of two or more and from hanging around the streets after 9pm.

Those who flout the order can be arrested."


Great, give young people a criminal record for hanging around with some pals........heaven forbid we actually give them somewhere to go...like a youth centre or something!

[kronas]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

good points but you have to start somewhere , do you really understand how much of a nuisance ppl ( i use the term loosely ) can be ??????? , or do you live somewhere where this is not a problem ???????

i would have to agree that the order is worth putting in place, i have seen many groups of youths around tows and cities causing a nuiscence with bus shelters and shutters as well as damage to buildings, glass debris, and such.

if its to keep unruliness out of the community then thats a good thing.

im not saying all groups of youngsters are 'bad' what i am saying is if there is a problem in a specific area its a very valid thing to do.

you cannot make the excuse that 'kids have nothing to do' im sure from the ages quoted in the article i would expect most 12-16 year olds to know what they are doing is causing aggrevation to a community, they get a kick out of doing it.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by aliferste

Great, give young people a criminal record for hanging around with some pals........heaven forbid we actually give them somewhere to go...like a youth centre or something!

if the youths are anything like the ones around here, they'll just trash that too.

Originally Posted by kronas

you cannot make the excuse that 'kids have nothing to do' im sure from the ages quoted in the article i would expect most 12-16 year olds to know what they are doing is causing aggrevation to a community, they get a kick out of doing it.

That refers to kids not knowing what they do, I agree they know what they are doing. I am saying they are doing that because they cannot access find any other form of entertainment because youth centers, sports factilitys and other such places are being closed down.

And i can make the arguement that kids have nothing to do until you provide evidance otherwise

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Damien

And i can make the arguement that kids have nothing to do until you provide evidance otherwise

its about as dead as a door nail around here for facilities and we dont get much of a problem around here.

as i said before people know where there actions lead, there is a local facility but involves a 15 to 20 minuite journey via bus.

its all about gangs, thats where most problems arise, in most cases i have seen where there is property damage or such things its mostly been because of groups rather than one single individual.

i do agree in some cases it is about lack of facilitys, but its mostly a smokescreen for the real underlying cause of bad behaviour.

Originally Posted by aliferste

Great, give young people a criminal record for hanging around with some pals........heaven forbid we actually give them somewhere to go...like a youth centre or something!

Exactly my point

That also raises another problem. Youths (like me, although i am 18 so it wont apply) will be arrested for commiting no crime other than exercising their right to freedom.

Most of this kids will have never harmed another human being in their life and have commited no crimes but will get arrested and have a criminal record for going out with their friends (which you do when you are young). I have relatives and friends at this age who dont hurt, scare or damage anyone or anything. Why should they be arrested for going outside with their friends.

Also if we were discussing a ban on 20-30 year olds (who also commit many, many anti-social crimes) or a blanket ban on any other age group or race then their would be outrage. It is only because people are used to treating this age group as lesser people that they think this is acceptible.

Remember this people will eventually be your doctors, and carers.