Firefox bugs - Page 2

scrotnig · 11-01-2005, 21:22

*cough*

Forum pages are dynamically generated and the back button should NOT be used unless the page instructs you to do so.

The forum pages are not ordinary html pages and that should be remembered.

bopdude · 11-01-2005, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Mark B

*cough*

Forum pages are dynamically generated and the back button should NOT be used unless the page instructs you to do so.

The forum pages are not ordinary html pages and that should be remembered.

So what are the pitfalls of doing this ? just curious

Ramrod · 11-01-2005, 22:33

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Originally Posted by bopdude

So what are the pitfalls of doing this ? just curious

Yes, 'cos I always use my back button

nffc · 11-01-2005, 23:37

I use my Back button and it returns to the bottom as IE does.

*waits for Bifta to say "childish"*

Bifta · 11-01-2005, 23:47

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Originally Posted by nffc

I use my Back button and it returns to the bottom as IE does.

*waits for Bifta to say "childish"*

I don't need to say it mate, I think people have realised already.

AndrewJ · 11-01-2005, 23:55

nffc · 12-01-2005, 00:19

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Originally Posted by Bifta

I don't need to say it mate, I think people have realised already.

Back on topic- I wonder why the same site loading in the same browser reacts differently on different peoples' PCs?

ian@huth · 12-01-2005, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Mark B

*cough*

Forum pages are dynamically generated and the back button should NOT be used unless the page instructs you to do so.

The forum pages are not ordinary html pages and that should be remembered.

The problem with not using the back button is that if you click on "new posts" you can get posts that you haven't read disappearing from the list of posts.

scrotnig · 12-01-2005, 00:37

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Originally Posted by bopdude

So what are the pitfalls of doing this ? just curious

You won't damage anything, but you may get things like old cached copies of pages, or even in extreme cases incorrectly built pages.

The pages are simply not designed to work correctly with back buttons. Using the back button is mistaking the page for a static html page, which of course it isn't.

scrotnig · 12-01-2005, 00:38

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Originally Posted by ianathuth

The problem with not using the back button is that if you click on "new posts" you can get posts that you haven't read disappearing from the list of posts.

New posts shouldn't disappear from the list immediately, only when your cookie expires. All that happens immediately if you click the link again is that the titles of read posts turn from bold type to standard type.

nffc · 12-01-2005, 00:41

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Originally Posted by Mark B

New posts shouldn't disappear from the list immediately, only when your cookie expires. All that happens immediately if you click the link again is that the titles of read posts turn from bold type to standard type.

IMO, that feature should decrease the new posts count as such posts are "read".

There's probably something preventing it- I don't know, I'm not a web designer and I'm not a programmer!

ian@huth · 12-01-2005, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Mark B

New posts shouldn't disappear from the list immediately, only when your cookie expires. All that happens immediately if you click the link again is that the titles of read posts turn from bold type to standard type.

Fair point, they usually disappear if I have clicked on a link and stayed on the linked site for a while and then click on new posts.

scrotnig · 12-01-2005, 00:54

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Originally Posted by nffc

IMO, that feature should decrease the new posts count as such posts are "read".

There's probably something preventing it- I don't know, I'm not a web designer and I'm not a programmer!

It's one of those 'by design' things.

It's not technically 'Unread Posts', it's 'New Posts Since Last Visit'.

Your 'current visit' lasts until you either log out, or your session expires, I think that is 15 minutes after last activity. So if you go to another site for 15 minutes, any posts, read or unread, that were in the new posts list last time, will have gone.

If you return before the 15 minutes is up, they'll all still be there.

Personally I prefer TODAY'S POSTS rather than New Posts, this gives all posts in the last 24 hours regardless of cookies and sessions, but there is no link to that by default.

nffc · 12-01-2005, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Mark B

It's one of those 'by design' things.

It's not technically 'Unread Posts', it's 'New Posts Since Last Visit'.

Your 'current visit' lasts until you either log out, or your session expires, I think that is 15 minutes after last activity. So if you go to another site for 15 minutes, any posts, read or unread, that were in the new posts list last time, will have gone.

If you return before the 15 minutes is up, they'll all still be there.

I know that. I was just saying I'd prefer something different.

Incidentally you can wipe the slate, it must re-write the cookie or something, by marking the forums read.