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Re: Britain outside the EU
This seems to be a good moment to make my current position clear on rejoining the EU.
IF: Barnier becomes next French president;
IF: The EU offers us resumption on Thatcher discount terms;
IF: It annoys the Irish government;
THEN: I might be content to rejoin. We can always be difficult if needs be.
I would still have utter contempt for “ever closer union” but a veto will stop that. However, Mrs Seph says you can’t be sure that a future British government wouldn’t go full tonto on a federal Europe. Careful consideration would have to be given on the political lie of the land in the UK.
Btw, I’m in favour of ending devolution in its present form. It’s divisive and overlays cost on the poor people of Scotland and Wales. I’d keep NI as the exception given the likelihood of a future Border Poll for unification of the island. That’ll bring the guns back out. Whether we’re in the EU or not, the EU would stir that pot.
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I see now that we have control of our borders Shabana Mahmood is proposing that “community groups” be allowed to identify and sponsor refugees.
is she on drugs?
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This seems to be a good moment to make my current position clear on rejoining the EU.
IF: Barnier becomes next French president;
IF: The EU offers us resumption on Thatcher discount terms;
IF: It annoys the Irish government;
THEN: I might be content to rejoin. We can always be difficult if needs be.
I would still have utter contempt for “ever closer union” but a veto will stop that. However, Mrs Seph says you can’t be sure that a future British government wouldn’t go full tonto on a federal Europe. Careful consideration would have to be given on the political lie of the land in the UK.
Btw, I’m in favour of ending devolution in its present form. It’s divisive and overlays cost on the poor people of Scotland and Wales. I’d keep NI as the exception given the likelihood of a future Border Poll for unification of the island. That’ll bring the guns back out. Whether we’re in the EU or not, the EU would stir that pot.
Not sure this is what we voted for....
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Originally Posted by thenry
Na. Gary Lineker is first in line to take on the burden.(It's a joke)
Thank goodness you identified it as such, now that's been clarified, definitely open with that
This seems to be a good moment to make my current position clear on rejoining the EU.
IF: Barnier becomes next French president;
IF: The EU offers us resumption on Thatcher discount terms;
IF: It annoys the Irish government;
THEN: I might be content to rejoin. We can always be difficult if needs be.
I would still have utter contempt for “ever closer union” but a veto will stop that. However, Mrs Seph says you can’t be sure that a future British government wouldn’t go full tonto on a federal Europe. Careful consideration would have to be given on the political lie of the land in the UK.
Btw, I’m in favour of ending devolution in its present form. It’s divisive and overlays cost on the poor people of Scotland and Wales. I’d keep NI as the exception given the likelihood of a future Border Poll for unification of the island. That’ll bring the guns back out. Whether we’re in the EU or not, the EU would stir that pot.
TLDR. I have Bregrets. I'm not a pensioner so can see the damage that it caused business. Let's rejoin.
The damage was called by the government, who failed to deliver the ‘bonfire of regulations’ and all the necessary measures to make Brexit succeed.
Governments, lots of them, pro EU & anti and none of them could do anything with it, suck it up and stop lying to yourself, this is what we voted for and this is as good as it gets
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Governments, lots of them, pro EU & anti and none of them could do anything with it, suck it up and stop lying to yourself, this is what we voted for and this is as good as it gets
As I said, they were meant to get rid of EU legislation to help rid businesses of the bureaucracy, complexity and other burdens imposed by the bloc. They didn’t do it. Too much like hard work, one presumes.
As I said, they were meant to get rid of EU legislation to help rid businesses of the bureaucracy, complexity and other burdens imposed by the bloc. They didn’t do it. Too much like hard work, one presumes.
More like if we had simply done away with all those laws when we left they would be vast swathes of regulatory gaps that'd leave the general public open to exploitation by unscrupulous people, instead of helping businesses it'd create chaos for them. Thats not even mentioning our post brexit trade deal with our biggest trading partner that commits us to a level playing field but that notwithstanding I'd imagine the rules are being scrutinised and binned where possible, to the benefit of uk consumers, workers and businesseses, just because they don't inform us each time doesn't mean its not happening
As I said, they were meant to get rid of EU legislation to help rid businesses of the bureaucracy, complexity and other burdens imposed by the bloc. They didn’t do it. Too much like hard work, one presumes.
Businesses asked the Conservative governments to keep the regulations in place or there would be chaos. There never was realistically going to be a regulatory bonfire.
In fact, as we know, bureaucracy has increased for businesses involved in importing from or exporting to, EU nations.
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