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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Don’t you think Streeting will stand? Isn’t that why he resigned from the Cabinet?
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That was then, this is now. I don't see the point in it given Burnham's popularity amongst MPs.
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Today, 11:16
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
He’s already backed Andy.
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It’s nuts, isn’t it. Even if they didn’t expect to win the next election after 2019, they had at that point been in opposition for 9 years. You would have thought someone would have done some policy work.
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It’s quite bizarre. The Sue Gray appointment indicates at that point they thought they were in with a shout.
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Today, 11:18
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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He’s already backed Andy.
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In that case, I agree, there’s no contest.
The only question now is how radical will he be?
He did a brilliant job as mayor, but the job of a PM is far harder, with problems coming at you from all directions while there’s an agenda to be progressed.
Hopefully, he will keep to the mandate Starmer had, but with a better way of dealing with it, otherwise he should go for a General Election to get his new mandate accepted by the electorate.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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In that case, I agree, there’s no contest.
The only question now is how radical will he be?
He did a brilliant job as mayor, but the job of a PM is far harder, with problems coming at you from all directions while there’s an agenda to be progressed.
Hopefully, he will keep to the mandate Starmer had, but with a better way of dealing with it, otherwise he should go for a General Election to get his new mandate accepted by the electorate.
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The labour back benches are tough to govern. They’re always rammed with student union ideologues who’ve never had any sort of job worth the name (Nadia Witless, anyone?) and for such pound shop radicals nothing will ever be enough. One of Starmer’s big mistakes was in trying to keep them onside when faced with difficult choices over tax and benefits. With a majority of 175 there are more wingnuts than ever, but at the same time much more leeway for absorbing rebellions. Starmer could have afforded to annoy them enough to defy the whip here and there and then face down the inevitable headlines as standing up to the hard left.
Burnham has precisely the same opportunity now.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
What Chris said
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Today, 12:19
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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You would have thought someone would have done some policy work.
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I suspect Burnham's team will be busy doing exactly that this summer!
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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The labour back benches are tough to govern. They’re always rammed with student union ideologues who’ve never had any sort of job worth the name (Nadia Witless, anyone?) and for such pound shop radicals nothing will ever be enough. One of Starmer’s big mistakes was in trying to keep them onside when faced with difficult choices over tax and benefits. With a majority of 175 there are more wingnuts than ever, but at the same time much more leeway for absorbing rebellions. Starmer could have afforded to annoy them enough to defy the whip here and there and then face down the inevitable headlines as standing up to the hard left.
Burnham has precisely the same opportunity now.
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In fairness, it wasn’t in their manifesto. It was however in the Conservative party manifesto to cut benefits.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Will Larry be disturbed in any of this drama?
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Will Larry be disturbed in any of this drama?
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Why do you ask?
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Maybe the new boy is allergic to cats?
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Maybe the new boy is allergic to cats?
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The cat's 19 years old and will be pegging it soon. Long lived the cat.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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The cat's 19 years old and will be pegging it soon. Lomg live the cat.
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When it dies, will there be some kind of vote or election on which cat replaces (quite possibly) the longest term resident?
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Animal cruelty . All these new owners.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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When it dies, will there be some kind of vote or election on which cat replaces (quite possibly) the longest term resident?
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While the cat's away .....
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Animal cruelty . All these new owners.
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you don't own a cat you work for them
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