Online Safety Bill Etc

[Carth]

Having a pre-moderated forum could also lead to the mods themselves having a fallout or two, we all have a difference of opinion, and one mans joke may be another mans blasphemy

Believe me you don’t need a pre-modded forum to get those sorts of fireworks. You should have seen some of our IRC team meets back in the day …

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Chris

Believe me you don’t need a pre-modded forum to get those sorts of fireworks. You should have seen some of our IRC team meets back in the day …

Oh I know, having been many years ago, a mod on a gaming forum

Originally Posted by jem

So let’s estimate 30 new posts a day (and I’m sure that one of the mods or admins may well, pitch in and claim that the actual average number is far higher).

Well I dont need to "claim" since I can access the actual figures.

So far, in 2026, the average has been 51 per day, ranging from 15 on a slow day, to 110 on a busy day.

[damien c]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

On last night's 'Peston' young people were asked what would make them feel safer online. The top answer was to ban those who say inappropriate things & the bottom one was to ban all u16's from social media.

Sorry been a while since I actually had chance to do anything on my pc or look at anything on the internet properly, as my Unraid server thank's to the heat has decided to throw it's toys out of the pram and now needs fixing.

The joy's of heat combined with 24 SAS Drives, 8x NVME Drives and a CPU that can pull nearly 700w of power at full tilt!!


The following is not meant to cause offence, but the fact some people will no doubt see it as "Offensive" just goes to prove my point!


So if they want to ban anyone that say's anything classed as "inappropriate" that would be "Everyone" since someone will always find a way to say what you said was "inappropriate".

So any person who is black say's the n-word, types it or even intimates they want to say or type it, they are instantly banned.

Any white person who does the same for the same word is also banned but this time they are also tagged and labelled a racist for saying something that black people say and call each other daily.

Then you have someone british saying "I am going to buy a packet of fags and a lighter", automatically that get's them banned because in America the word "fag" is deemed a homophobic slur and as such is "inappropriate" for anyone to say.

Then you have an American say "I want a fanny pack", that get's them banned because that word is well slang in the UK and a "insult" but also deemed "inappropriate" to many to say or type.


How about when a black person say's "I smelt something that smelt like wet dog, whilst stood next to a white person at a bus stop whilst taking shelter from the rain", that is something that is not only "racist" to some but also "inappropriate" to many.


You cannot ban something or someone from the internet etc for saying something which you feel is "inappropriate", because as I say, you would have to ban EVERYONE.

You cannot even as mentioned later in the thread from the above quote have Admin's and Mod's consistently check and approve every post on a forum or social media site because "something might be offensive", because what offends me is probably not going to offend you and I can fairly confidently say that 99% of what offends you won't offend me.

The expansion of the "Online Safety Act" is already putting kids at risk, because it's removing the ability for kids to see what harms they are potentially being exposed to, because their teachers are "Woke" or because they are being forced on "School Trips" and "After School Clubs" to Mosques, Churches, Political Indoctrination Meetings etc and forced to take part without there parents being informed.


The Online Safety Act is a money, data and control grab, force people to prove their age, make money by doing so, get their information by doing so, stop them accessing websites even legit websites because they don't want their information linked with that site for what ever reason.

You take away the money, you take away the data and the control and the Online Safety Act will disappear, it's why none of the governments involved in it, want to use a system which was created by Linux developers that keeps all the information private and is free.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by damien c

Sorry been a while since I actually had chance to do anything on my pc or look at anything on the internet properly, as my Unraid server thank's to the heat has decided to throw it's toys out of the pram and now needs fixing.

The joy's of heat combined with 24 SAS Drives, 8x NVME Drives and a CPU that can pull nearly 700w of power at full tilt!!


The following is not meant to cause offence, but the fact some people will no doubt see it as "Offensive" just goes to prove my point!


So if they want to ban anyone that say's anything classed as "inappropriate" that would be "Everyone" since someone will always find a way to say what you said was "inappropriate".

So any person who is black say's the n-word, types it or even intimates they want to say or type it, they are instantly banned.

Any white person who does the same for the same word is also banned but this time they are also tagged and labelled a racist for saying something that black people say and call each other daily.

Then you have someone british saying "I am going to buy a packet of fags and a lighter", automatically that get's them banned because in America the word "fag" is deemed a homophobic slur and as such is "inappropriate" for anyone to say.

Then you have an American say "I want a fanny pack", that get's them banned because that word is well slang in the UK and a "insult" but also deemed "inappropriate" to many to say or type.


How about when a black person say's "I smelt something that smelt like wet dog, whilst stood next to a white person at a bus stop whilst taking shelter from the rain", that is something that is not only "racist" to some but also "inappropriate" to many.


You cannot ban something or someone from the internet etc for saying something which you feel is "inappropriate", because as I say, you would have to ban EVERYONE.

You cannot even as mentioned later in the thread from the above quote have Admin's and Mod's consistently check and approve every post on a forum or social media site because "something might be offensive", because what offends me is probably not going to offend you and I can fairly confidently say that 99% of what offends you won't offend me.

The expansion of the "Online Safety Act" is already putting kids at risk, because it's removing the ability for kids to see what harms they are potentially being exposed to, because their teachers are "Woke" or because they are being forced on "School Trips" and "After School Clubs" to Mosques, Churches, Political Indoctrination Meetings etc and forced to take part without there parents being informed.


The Online Safety Act is a money, data and control grab, force people to prove their age, make money by doing so, get their information by doing so, stop them accessing websites even legit websites because they don't want their information linked with that site for what ever reason.

You take away the money, you take away the data and the control and the Online Safety Act will disappear, it's why none of the governments involved in it, want to use a system which was created by Linux developers that keeps all the information private and is free.

I imagine that what children/young people meant by 'inappropriate' would be things like harrassment, bullyjng, swearing, making threats, sexualised content, grooming, encouraging self harm/suicide, things of this nature.

[Carth]

Well that doesn't leave much.
Can we lock them up somewhere ultra safe until they become adults?

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Carth

Well that doesn't leave much.
Can we lock them up somewhere ultra safe until they become adults?

Ban all smart devices to anyone would perhaps work

[Carth]

I'm gonna start a "ban the internet" group, we're gonna have web pages, blogs, a forum, a facebook group and everything . . . oh wait

[OLD BOY]

The obvious answer is to have children’s phones that can only access ‘safe’ sites. Adults shouldn’t have to suffer detriment from these measures and social media sites should not have to jump through hoops to protect children and the hyper-sensitive types.

Such sites that are harmful to children should not be available to children, period. Hyper-sensitives should buy themselves children’s phones.

Do these "children's phones" exist?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Do these "children's phones" exist?

I don’t think so, but surely it is the way to go.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don’t think so, but surely it is the way to go.

I'm not sure you fully understand the complexity of what you're proposing...

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I'm not sure you fully understand the complexity of what you're proposing...

Agreed, it's too complex . . and within a month someone somewhere will have found a way to make them perform like a 'normal' phone . . which is why the quote below is the best option I've seen, and will also probably save us all a lot of money.

Originally Posted by Itshim

Ban all smart devices to anyone would perhaps work