Starmer’s chronicles

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Grim has a point. That’s the problem with politicians - they don’t think strategically in the interests of the people - only themsleves.

Hence killing the coal mining industry without a plan for the affected areas was terrible oversight. Of course Scargill didn’t help the cause and it got Thatcher into revenge mode.

Agreed, King Arthur could probably have done things better/differently but I'm sure he would argue he was fighting for the very existence of his members. That terrible oversight of not having a plan for the future is one reason it's still so raw round here.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by nomadking

They didn't need replacing because there was NO NET IMPACT on homeless etc.

That makes absolutely no sense at all . There was still a housing queue waiting for people to move or die . Sell the houses build no more what happens to the growing queue. Talk sense man. No caps needed

[GrimUpNorth]

Anyway, back the thread title. I've never hidden my dislike for our PM and have never considered him to be a true Labourite, I'm sure I've said on here I consider him a Liberal who realised he would never get to power so chose to pretend to be Labour. The sooner he's gone the better. I know who I want to be PM and it's none of the names being banded about at the moment.

[Jaymoss]

Paul did ask what we were paying in all fairness Grim

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Paul

Given she was last PM some 35 years ago, what price would that be ?

Selling off state owned oil assets would be the obvious one. That is having a tangible impact 35 years on.

[Sephiroth]

In answer to Grim’s point about Labourism, Atlee was a good example of good Labourism. His lot did a good job for post-war UK. After him, Wilsonn was too political; Callaghan was a nothing. Blair was aa moderniser who kept the UK going; Brown was a crock; Starmer - POS.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It wasn't just the fact she sold them off, its the fact she put laws and restrictions in place to stop new ones being built with the proceeds, her utilities sell off has led us to where we are now, sky high bills, companies loaded with debt and little investment, Norway has a huge sovereign wealth fund benefitting its people with the proceeds of North Sea oil, who benefitted from our north sea oil and we will be paying the price for her policies forever not just 35 years after because the damage done can't simply be undone, it took decades to get the right to buy money freed up and used in communities for instance

They were STILL being built. There was NO INCREASED REQUIREMENT as a result.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

That makes absolutely no sense at all . There was still a housing queue waiting for people to move or die . Sell the houses build no more what happens to the growing queue. Talk sense man. No caps needed

No NET impact. The number being housed didn't change.

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Originally Posted by Carth

It wasn't just the Mines closing that decimated towns, it was also the knock on effect of the businesses that serviced the mines now having no work too.

I'm only around 25 miles from some badly hit areas.

Labour closed more mines.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

You accidentally missed out a bit…



Strange when Rayner underpays Stamp Duty it’s a scandal, but when Tice underpays £91k of Corporation Tax, it’s a minor administrative error…

He didn't underpay. He paid it instead as income tax.
Rayner deliberately and intentionally underpaid stamp duty, CGT, and right to buy discount refund.
50% of the property was transferred to her son, with her remaining 25% sold to his trust. Sidestepping CGT and higher stamp duty. confused about the whole situation surrounding that. Doesn't make legal sense.