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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
From a child, I was a newspaper reader. I watched TV news, etc. So, ignorant, I wasn't. But somehow, I formed an opinion that rich people had no right to be rich.
It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.
If you take that as a benchmark, then, in the pre-Greens & Reform UK world, you could see why Labour would want to gerrymander the 2million+ votes available from the 16-18 year olds.
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I formed an opinion that rich people had no right to be rich
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I think that says more about you (evidenced by your posts on here, you appear to view things either/or, rather than faceted/shaded), than about 16-17 year olds; also, anecdata should not inform policy…
Not sure "gerrymander" is emotive enough - why not use "steal"?
Also, what makes you think that the 1.63 million 16-17 olds are a homogeneous group? A poll last year showed them prospectively voting Labour at 28%, followed by the Greens on 26% and the Liberal Democrats on 20%. In contrast, the Conservatives were on 9% and Reform UK on 8%.
I don’t understand how over 68% of 16-17 year olds prospectively not voting for Labour is "gerrymandering"…
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
From a child, I was a newspaper reader. I watched TV news, etc. So, ignorant, I wasn't. But somehow, I formed an opinion that rich people had no right to be rich.
It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.
If you take that as a benchmark, then, in the pre-Greens & Reform UK world, you could see why Labour would want to gerrymander the 2million+ votes available from the 16-18 year olds.
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They have in Wales 
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Yesterday, 17:47
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
"It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.”
Of course, you must be aware of the old sentiment “if you are not a socialist in your teens, then you have no heart...but if you still a socialist in your thirties, you have no brain”.
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by jem
"It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.”
Of course, you must be aware of the old sentiment “if you are not a socialist in your teens, then you have no heart...but if you still a socialist in your thirties, you have no brain”.
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And if you're still socialist in you're 50's, you're a really nice person, unlike everyone else 
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Yesterday, 20:05
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by jem
"It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.”
Of course, you must be aware of the old sentiment “if you are not a socialist in your teens, then you have no heart...but if you still a socialist in your thirties, you have no brain”.
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth
From a child, I was a newspaper reader. I watched TV news, etc. So, ignorant, I wasn't. But somehow, I formed an opinion that rich people had no right to be rich.
It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.
If you take that as a benchmark, then, in the pre-Greens & Reform UK world, you could see why Labour would want to gerrymander the 2million+ votes available from the 16-18 year olds.
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lf is doing a lot of heavy lifting. So much so that anything after it may be ignored.
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