Online Safety Bill Etc

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

Alternatively, I don't know of anyone who's been shot or stabbed online

Actually, thinking about it, isn't most of the crap that happens - online or outdoors - instigated by kids anyway?

No, but people have been encourage to take their own lives whilst in a state of mental distress (or literally bullied to death.)

I do agree that much of the crap is instigated by young people.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

No, but people have been encourage to take their own lives whilst in a state of mental distress (or literally bullied to death.)

There is nothing new about that, it happened long long before the internet ever even existed.

[damien c]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

These days I think that the real world is actually safer than the online world.

Tell that to all the people who are abused, raped, assaulted, robbed, killed, injured etc etc on a daily basis on the streets of this country.

Tell that to the thousands of girls who are stalked on their way home each day from school!!


As for "Instigation" for one to kill themselves, I didn't realise that bullying etc only came into existence when the internet became mainstream and we gave kids mobile phones/fakebook access, kid's telling other kid's verbally, via graffiti etc to kills themselves never happened before the internet.

Just like child abuse never existed, csam never existed, there was no abuse, no false information etc etc before the internet, the internet created it all!


The online world and "real" world are as bad as each other, but for the most part, because I was raised correctly and warned of the issues that could be online etc like many my age, we/I understood/understand the risks and as such most people I know didn't fall the BS online, unlike these days, where you are not allowed to teach kids about the bad things because you will be labelled an extremist etc!

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by damien c

Tell that to all the people who are abused, raped, assaulted, robbed, killed, injured etc etc on a daily basis on the streets of this country.

Tell that to the thousands of girls who are stalked on their way home each day from school!!


As for "Instigation" for one to kill themselves, I didn't realise that bullying etc only came into existence when the internet became mainstream and we gave kids mobile phones/fakebook access, kid's telling other kid's verbally, via graffiti etc to kills themselves never happened before the internet.

Just like child abuse never existed, csam never existed, there was no abuse, no false information etc etc before the internet, the internet created it all!


The online world and "real" world are as bad as each other, but for the most part, because I was raised correctly and warned of the issues that could be online etc like many my age, we/I understood/understand the risks and as such most people I know didn't fall the BS online, unlike these days, where you are not allowed to teach kids about the bad things because you will be labelled an extremist etc!

Oh yes, both have their problems, but the Internet has made it easier to do, especially if they are able to do so anonymously.

[Carth]

I didn't think anyone could now be anonymous on the internet

If kids are getting 'bullied and abused' online it's usually from other kids that they know . .

Obviously the more serious stuff is different, but if you "don't talk to strangers" (Ronnie James Dio, Holy Diver album 1983) then you're much safer

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Carth

I didn't think anyone could now be anonymous on the internet

If kids are getting 'bullied and abused' online it's usually from other kids that they know . .

Obviously the more serious stuff is different, but if you "don't talk to strangers" (Ronnie James Dio, Holy Diver album 1983) then you're much safer

Don't get how anyone lets them selfs be bullied on line. Surely someone could show them the off switch.

Originally Posted by Itshim

Surely someone could show them the off switch.

No one understands that simple concept - much like years ago when people complained about whats on TV.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Paul

No one understands that simple concept - much like years ago when people complained about whats on TV.

Made me remember a line about Mary Whitehouse from a song by Roy Chubby Brown .

[RichardCoulter]

Jusr been on the BBC news that mobile phones are to be banned for children in schools by law in England, so hopefully this will help to curtail bullying (includes both smart & non smart phones.)

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Jusr been on the BBC news that mobile phones are to be banned for children in schools by law in England, so hopefully this will help to curtail bullying (includes both smart & non smart phones.)

How on earth will it curtailing bullying?? They can still access their phones outside of school hours.