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Re: President Trump 2.0
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The mediators in Oman said Iran offered to give up all its enriched uranium and promised to never stockpile more...
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Iran had previously signed an agreement to limit its nuclear actvities which Trump tore up so this would make sense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Plan_of_Action
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Like I said, USA was bounced into the war by Israel, imo.
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He's a poor leader and failed to stand up to Netanyahu. He did not need to get involved in Israel's actions and his ending of the deal with Iran caused Israel's concerns in the first place.
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It's about how Starmer should have worked.
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How should he have worked? Just become Trump's yes man?
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Yesterday, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Hugh
How has he crapped on the USA?
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Well he is makiing us look horrible.... Most of the world is mad at this coutnry because of him.... WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!
Before this goes too far Hugh!!
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Yesterday, 23:18
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Iran had previously signed an agreement to limit its nuclear actvities which Trump tore up so this would make sense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Plan_of_Action
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He's a poor leader and failed to stand up to Netanyahu. He did not need to get involved in Israel's actions and his ending of the deal with Iran caused Israel's concerns in the first place.
How should he have worked? Just become Trump's yes man? |
Like I said, Starmer should have allowed the USA to use our bases.
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Yesterday, 23:31
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Like I said, Starmer should have allowed the USA to use our bases.
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No he shouldn’t. He’s right to insist on defensive ops only and he’s right to refuse to deploy ships to Hormuz. Trump is chaotic, he’s unreliable, and we cannot become hostages to his fortune.
The sooner we accept that the US is unreliable for at least the duration of Trump’s presidency the better - it will kill off this dangerous impulse to do whatever America wants, on demand, as if we were back in 1991.
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Yesterday, 23:50
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Like I said, Starmer should have allowed the USA to use our bases.
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Your unbridled enthusiasm for the UK to become a vassal state is unbecoming of you. Trump should be happy that other countries buy into his philosophy of putting national interests first.
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Today, 10:06
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Dude111
Well he is makiing us look horrible.... Most of the world is mad at this coutnry because of him.... WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!
Before this goes too far Hugh!!
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Yes, indeed, Trump is certainly making the rest of the world mad at him, but how do you get him out? Dems winning the Midterms, followed by impeachment?
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Today, 10:22
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Yes, indeed, Trump is certainly making the rest of the world mad at him, but how do you get him out? Dems winning the Midterms, followed by impeachment?
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Impeachment wouldn’t be successful, as it requires 2/3rds supermajority in the Senate, I believe
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Today, 10:51
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Impeachment wouldn’t be successful, as it requires 2/3rds supermajority in the Senate, I believe
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But if the Dems take just Congress, they might at least be able to rein him in somewhat, as they are supposed to control the purse strings. Plus, they can bog him down in investigations of his actions - particularly around Epstein, his appointees, and his family’s dodgy dealings.
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Today, 11:44
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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But if the Dems take just Congress, they might at least be able to rein him in somewhat, as they are supposed to control the purse strings. Plus, they can bog him down in investigations of his actions - particularly around Epstein, his appointees, and his family’s dodgy dealings.
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Here’s hoping…
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Today, 12:15
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Impeachment wouldn’t be successful, as it requires 2/3rds supermajority in the Senate, I believe
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Indeed.
Congress impeaches, which is in effect the equivalent of a grand jury hearing a case outline and voting to issue an indictment (indictment is a procedure we’ve abolished in any meaningful way in the UK).
The Senate is then roughly equivalent to a jury in a criminal trial, hearing all the evidence and voting on guilt or innocence. When seen in those terms, the requirement for a supermajority makes more sense, although with the senate itself now being directly elected by the people rather than filled with appointees sent by the states any such hearing is now so nakedly political as to be more or less pointless. If you know the political makeup of-up of the senate you know within a vote or two what the outcome will be.
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Today, 12:54
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Like I said, Starmer should have allowed the USA to use our bases.
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All he did was insist on our Sovereignty, and not being bossed about by the Leader of a bunch of Federated States… 
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Today, 13:38
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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All he did was insist on our Sovereignty, and not being bossed about by the Leader of a bunch of Federated States… |
Isn't that what Brexit was about too?
 
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Today, 14:10
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Today, 15:17
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war and urges Trump to 'reverse course'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4g66r3z40o
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The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.
Kent, 45, is a US special forces and CIA veteran whose wife, navy cryptologic technician Shannon Kent, was killed in a suicide bombing in Syria in 2019.
The BBC has contacted the White House for comment on Kent's resignation.
Additionally, Kent alleged that "high-ranking Israeli officials" and influential US journalists had sowed "misinformation" that caused Trump to undermine his "America First" platform.
"This echo was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posted an imminent threat to the United States," the letter continued. "This was a lie."
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Re: President Trump 2.0
he'll be a "loser" by teatime
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