Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

There may be a US constitutional question, i.e. legitimacy within US law; but there is no doubt that the USA was under threat and attack after the Israeli first strike which, in international terms, legitimises the USA action.


Wake up. Iran had to be stopped in its quest to achieve nuclear capability which the would have used to obliterate Israel.

Were they under threat of attack, seemed like a long list of rationales were thrown at the wall before that one stuck, sounded the most sensible and resonated a bit more than nuclear bombs, regime change, ballistic missiles, being mean to donnie etc etc

Bibi has been banging on about Iran being on the brink of having a nuclear bomb for 30 years, in fact the only time frame he never used was 30 years away from a bomb, besides donnie told their nuclear programme was blown to smithereens last year, if you didnt believe him then, how can you believe him now.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It was a compliment, my way. I do appreciate when you bring the latest facts to the Forum.

And, to remind for the record:

Israel has to protect itself.

Hamas needs to be offed.

Hezbollah, ditto.

Iran - Regime to be offed and its people freed.

And from what I can tell yhe regime is stronger, the old ayatollah (sp) was deeply unpopular and in his mid 80's, how long did he even have left, now he's a martyr, young people who knew nothing but the oppressive regime are now tied to it

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

With a bit of luck, Iran is nearly out of missiles and drones.

It's more likely the other way around, that Israel and America are nearly out of missiles

Originally Posted by Hugh

Difficult when you (current USA leadership) fire the experts, or don’t listen to them when their expertise doesn’t support what they (USA leadership) want to believe…

Indeed, they warned donnie killing the ayatollah (sp) wouldn't be the end of it but donnie knew best and had to find a distraction from the paedo ring he was at the heart of and covering up

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It's more likely the other way around, that Israel and America are nearly out of missiles

Unlikely at this stage, but because of this little adventure they’ll be in trouble if China kicks off over Taiwan at any time in the next couple of years.

[Carth]

Trump will just send people out there armed with flintlock Muskets

Originally Posted by Carth

Trump will just send people out there armed with flintlock Muskets

Well, it worked before…

President Trump made a bit of a historical blunder during his Fourth of July “Salute to America” speech Thursday when he said that the Continental Army “took over the airports” from the British during the American Revolutionary War in the 1770s.

During his hour-long speech at the grounds of Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C., Trump stayed largely off politics.

Trump praised the Americans’ military efforts in the war against Great Britain. “Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory,” he said.

https://time.com/5620936/donald-trum...-war-airports/

[Sephiroth]

You do want the Iranian regime offed, Carth? And their missiles trashed? Yes? Please?

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt offered an explanation of what Trump means by his unconditional surrender demand on Iran.

“When Trump, as Commander in Chief, determines that Iran no longer poses a threat to the US and the goals of Operation Epic Fury have been fully realized, then Iran will essentially be in a place of unconditional surrender, whether they say it themselves or not,” she explained.

https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story...ral-more-weeks

As the war entered its seventh day with intensifying strikes and retaliatory attacks across the region, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio informed Arab foreign ministers that the conflict is expected to continue for several more weeks, according to a report by Axios.

On Friday, the American news outlet Axios, citing sources with direct knowledge of the conversations, reported that Rubio conveyed the message during a series of phone calls with Arab foreign ministers on Thursday.

According to the sources, Rubio explained that the current military focus is on Iran’s missile launchers, stockpiles, and factories.

He also told the ministers that the United States’ goal is not regime change, while simultaneously making clear that Washington wants different people running the country, the sources said.

In both cases

[jem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story...ral-more-weeks



In both cases

Wow, just f’ing wow. Just when you think they can’t possibly get even more inarticulate and incompetent, they surprise you.

The real professionals in the US military really have to be cringing and face-palming now.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

Unlikely at this stage, but because of this little adventure they’ll be in trouble if China kicks off over Taiwan at any time in the next couple of years.

I think they're already in trouble, the UAE has sent 30 times defending itself than it cost Iran to attack them, they are running out of weapons and so are other Arab states, hence donnie has demanded US arms manufacturers quadruple their output.

Quite surprised this never gained any traction, apparently in the negotiations that were abruptly cut short by America attacking, Oman foreign minister & negotiator is claiming Iran agreed to everything, no nuclear material stockpiling, IAEA monitoring, US spot checks, no weapons grade enriched uranium the lot, seems war war was preferable to jaw jaw though

[Carth]

Weapon Manufacturing isn't a great earner in times of peace . . although slinging all your old stock at someone begging for it *cough Ukraine *cough* does then give you scope to produce better stuff I guess.