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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Strange how none of these observers reported the alleged acts to the Polling Officers or the Police as they happened, as the practice was made illegal by the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023 to prevent people from watching family members while they were voting, seeing how they cast their ballot and sometimes telling them how to vote.
In fact, their website says they should...
https://democracyvolunteers.org/about-us/
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We maintain strict impartiality and require our observers to abide by UK and international standards, as well as the relevant local legal framework, when acting as our observers.
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27-02-2026, 19:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Strange how none of these observers reported the alleged acts to the Polling Officers or the Police as they happened, as the practice was made illegal by the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023 to prevent people from watching family members while they were voting, seeing how they cast their ballot and sometimes telling them how to vote.
In fact, their website says they should...
https://democracyvolunteers.org/about-us/
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They're not the ones breaking any laws.
If they did report it there and then, it wouldn't be a true picture of what might be going on at the other polling stations. They were there to observe, not interfere and police any goings on.
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28-02-2026, 21:28
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Another minster resigns . What's the betting , Starmer knew nothing
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28-02-2026, 23:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Who ?
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Yesterday, 21:22
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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They're not the ones breaking any laws.
If they did report it there and then, it wouldn't be a true picture of what might be going on at the other polling stations. They were there to observe, not interfere and police any goings on.
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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ction-33499275
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In response, the acting returning officer running the by-election has hit back at the claims, asking why the group issued their statement after polls closed at 10pm and not sooner. They also said staff were not told of family voting issues on-the-ground.
A spokesperson for the acting returning officer said: "Polling station staff are trained to look out for any evidence of undue influence on voters. No such issues have been reported today.
"If Democracy Volunteers were so concerned about alleged issues they could and should have raised them with us during polling hours so that immediate action could be taken. We have operated a central by-election hub which has been rapidly responding to reported issues during the day, in liaison with the police - who had a presence at every polling station - where necessary.
"It is extremely disappointing that Democracy Volunteers have waited until after polls have closed to make such claims."
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Yesterday, 22:05
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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But then there wouldn't be a true reflection of what was going on in polling stations they weren't at. Instead of a figure of 12% of votes, it would've been a lot less at the stations they were at and intervened, but still 12% at the ones they weren't. That 12% would've been unknown because nobody was there to observe it. Just as with polling OBSERVERS around the World, their job is to observe, not interfere.
The controlling aspect over voting would still take place, just not necessarily in the voting booths.
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Yesterday, 22:14
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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But then there wouldn't be a true reflection of what was going on in polling stations they weren't at. Instead of a figure of 12% of votes, it would've been a lot less at the stations they were at and intervened, but still 12% at the ones they weren't. That 12% would've been unknown because nobody was there to observe it. Just as with polling OBSERVERS around the World, their job is to observe, not interfere.
The controlling aspect over voting would still take place, just not necessarily in the voting booths.
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I only understood about 12% of that!
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Yesterday, 22:41
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I only understood about 12% of that!
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It's damn statistics again eh
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Yesterday, 22:52
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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It's damn statistics again eh 
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What about the other 88%?
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Yesterday, 23:13
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I only understood about 12% of that!
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If instead of only simply observing, they intervened, then from that point on any other attempts would also have been intervened. As a result the number observed would've been less than 12%.
Now consider a polling station that they weren't observing, then the figure might've been 12%. The only way of knowing that the possible figure for unobserved stations was 12%, was by not intervening and seeing what happened naturally.
General principle of you can't properly measure natural behaviour by intervening.
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