Online Safety Bill Etc

[Carth]

Parental Responsibility

Is that still a thing or has it been removed from active duty by years of giving kids the easy way out?

[RichardCoulter]

Responsible parenting is obviously a good thing, but what about those who have parents that are unable or willing to take responsibility and those who simply couldn't care less? Society puts in place laws to try and protect their children too.

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Originally Posted by Paul

That excuse it getting very tired now, and is just BS.
Just like the age old BS of "we are restricting your access in the interests of security".

Children can still access pornograpic content if they so wish, and always have been, long before the internet even existed. So yes, it is what it is.

This is one option that society has, it could simply agree with your points and say that it's an issue that cannot be resolved, so do as you please and to hell with the consequences.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Responsible parenting is obviously a good thing, but what about those who have parents that are unable or willing to take responsibility and those who simply couldn't care less? Society puts in place laws to try and protect their children too.

Don't we have well paid highly educated people in something called 'social services' to identify children with 'couldn't care less' parents?

On the other side of the coin, parents are aware they could face fines and/or a custodial sentence for clipping their obnoxious miss-behaving brat around the ear, and teachers have no control at school over disruptive little shits in the classroom.

Laws to protect children, that basically give them free reign to do what they want

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

Don't we have well paid highly educated people in something called 'social services' to identify children with 'couldn't care less' parents?

On the other side of the coin, parents are aware they could face fines and/or a custodial sentence for clipping their obnoxious miss-behaving brat around the ear, and teachers have no control at school over disruptive little shits in the classroom.

Laws to protect children, that basically give them free reign to do what they want

Most problem parents aren't flagged to social services, the number of parents that get away with abusing their children is testament to this.

MP's are to consider a Lords amendment to ban under 18's from using a VPN:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/21...n-uk-table/amp

[damien c]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Are you happy with a situation where children are able to easily access pornograpic conten, or do you think that it is what it is and nothing can be done?

Here is the thing that people seem to forget, I am 40 years old now, I was able to watch Porn, look at naked images of women from about the age of 2 if I wanted to why you might ask?

Well quite simply there were videos available, there were magazines available, there was Page 3, do you know why I didn't go looking for it?

Simple answer is we were not being told from the age of 5 about sex in school, unlike what is happening around the world today.

I could from an early age access the internet, I could look for porn if I wanted to, but I didn't because I had no interest in it, I also didn't what a clip round the back of the head of my parents for looking at something I had no business looking at, you see my parents were actually allowed to raise me the way they felt was right, they were also allowed to discipline me the way they felt was right, that made damn sure I knew that if I did something wrong I was going to be caught and I would be in trouble.

The difference is now, you are not allowed to raise your kids the way you see fit, you are not allowed to discipline your kids, you are not allowed to say no to your kids, because if you do, they go running to a school teacher and you find yourself under investigation for child abuse.

We also didn't have back then, teachers trying to teach us from the age of 5 about "Consent" "Rape" "Sex" "Oral Sex" etc etc

https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/202...0for%20science.

What are the age limits?
In primary school, we’ve set out that subjects such as the risks about online gaming, social media and scams should not be taught before year 3.

Puberty shouldn’t be taught before year 4, whilst sex education shouldn’t be taught before year 5, in line with what pupils learn about conception and birth as part of the national curriculum for science.

In secondary school, issues regarding sexual harassment shouldn’t be taught before year 7, direct references to suicide before year 8 and any explicit discussion of sexual activity before year 9.

If kids were treated as kids they wouldn't be looking for porn online, they would be playing games either on a computer or they would be outside with their friends, but no we now have to treat kids like they are middle aged adults working a 9-5.

If I ever have kids of my own, I doubt I will, but if I do they will NEVER go into the public or private school system, I will homeschool them and they will not be taught about Sex or anything like that till they are over 14 years old!





I am also quite frankly sick and tired "Oh won't someone think of the children, we must protect the children".

The OSA is not about protecting children, it is about control and nothing more, control what you can see, control what you can do and control what you can say.

Frankly anyone involved in the OSA should be investigated because I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999% sure they have money invested in the companies being used for it!

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Originally Posted by Carth

Don't we have well paid highly educated people in something called 'social services' to identify children with 'couldn't care less' parents?

On the other side of the coin, parents are aware they could face fines and/or a custodial sentence for clipping their obnoxious miss-behaving brat around the ear, and teachers have no control at school over disruptive little shits in the classroom.

Laws to protect children, that basically give them free reign to do what they want

Exactly this, all the laws are doing is giving kids a free pass to cause havoc and they know they will get away with it because some left wing do gooder will come along and say "They have had a hard life, they were abused by their parents they were told they were not allowed ice cream and money on Roblox".

When kid's have no consequences to their actions you end up with the idiots protesting all the time like the just stop oil clowns, they had no consequences growing up it would seem, so now they think they can vandalise, murder and cause a nuisance and we just have to accept it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by damien c

Here is the thing that people seem to forget, I am 40 years old now, I was able to watch Porn, look at naked images of women from about the age of 2 if I wanted to why you might ask?

Well quite simply there were videos available, there were magazines available, there was Page 3, do you know why I didn't go looking for it?

Simple answer is we were not being told from the age of 5 about sex in school, unlike what is happening around the world today.

I could from an early age access the internet, I could look for porn if I wanted to, but I didn't because I had no interest in it, I also didn't what a clip round the back of the head of my parents for looking at something I had no business looking at, you see my parents were actually allowed to raise me the way they felt was right, they were also allowed to discipline me the way they felt was right, that made damn sure I knew that if I did something wrong I was going to be caught and I would be in trouble.

The difference is now, you are not allowed to raise your kids the way you see fit, you are not allowed to discipline your kids, you are not allowed to say no to your kids, because if you do, they go running to a school teacher and you find yourself under investigation for child abuse.

We also didn't have back then, teachers trying to teach us from the age of 5 about "Consent" "Rape" "Sex" "Oral Sex" etc etc

https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/202...0for%20science.




If kids were treated as kids they wouldn't be looking for porn online, they would be playing games either on a computer or they would be outside with their friends, but no we now have to treat kids like they are middle aged adults working a 9-5.

If I ever have kids of my own, I doubt I will, but if I do they will NEVER go into the public or private school system, I will homeschool them and they will not be taught about Sex or anything like that till they are over 14 years old!





I am also quite frankly sick and tired "Oh won't someone think of the children, we must protect the children".

The OSA is not about protecting children, it is about control and nothing more, control what you can see, control what you can do and control what you can say.

Frankly anyone involved in the OSA should be investigated because I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999% sure they have money invested in the companies being used for it!

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Exactly this, all the laws are doing is giving kids a free pass to cause havoc and they know they will get away with it because some left wing do gooder will come along and say "They have had a hard life, they were abused by their parents they were told they were not allowed ice cream and money on Roblox".

When kid's have no consequences to their actions you end up with the idiots protesting all the time like the just stop oil clowns, they had no consequences growing up it would seem, so now they think they can vandalise, murder and cause a nuisance and we just have to accept it.