Online Safety Bill Etc

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

I think you missed the point, again. If its in another jurisdiction, you dont need to care what the OSA says.
Short of blocking the site, which is very unlikely, no one can really do much about it, if you ignore it the requirement.

Even blocking would fail, torrent sites have been blocked for years, they are all still happily functioning, and in regular use.

I was setting out the legal position, as that's what I believe was being referred to, people could choose to break UK law, but they must be prepared to face any consequences that may arise as a result.

I was told earlier this week that Ofcom (and the Advertising Standards Authority) are now using AI to find problematic sites.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I was told earlier this week that Ofcom (and the Advertising Standards Authority) are now using AI to find problematic sites.

So they are using AI to do very thing they want to stop ? Classic.

[jem]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I was setting out the legal position, as that's what I believe was being referred to, people could choose to break UK law, but they must be prepared to face any consequences that may arise as a result.

I was told earlier this week that Ofcom (and the Advertising Standards Authority) are now using AI to find problematic sites.

Yes, but that was my point, hypothetically I decide to move my site out of the UK’s jurisdiction, then I can quite happily break the UK law, and, realistically, there won't be any consequences at all.

Well OK, OFCOM might get a Court order to instruct the large ISPs to block access to my site - but see how well that worked in the case of, say 'The Pirate Bay', blocked by Court order so completely impossible to access in the UK - you think?

[Carth]

I don't miss the heady days of Napster . . 3 weeks to download a file that turns out to be something completely different to what you wanted.

Not that I still do that torrent download stuff . . . apart from the occasional Unix distro to experiment with on old laptops

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jem

Yes, but that was my point, hypothetically I decide to move my site out of the UK’s jurisdiction, then I can quite happily break the UK law, and, realistically, there won't be any consequences at all.

Well OK, OFCOM might get a Court order to instruct the large ISPs to block access to my site - but see how well that worked in the case of, say 'The Pirate Bay', blocked by Court order so completely impossible to access in the UK - you think?

Politicians have said that various methods would be used to circumvent this tactic eg forbidding UK hosts from hosting such sites, forbidding British advertisers or ad agencies from supplying them with ad revenue/services, a way to starve them to death if you like.

[jem]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Politicians have said that various methods would be used to circumvent this tactic eg forbidding UK hosts from hosting such sites, forbidding British advertisers or ad agencies from supplying them with ad revenue/services, a way to starve them to death if you like.

No, no, please understand that this is simply ‘sound-bites’; ‘forbidding UK hosts from hosting sites.

Yes that’s the whole point, these sites won’t be hosted in the UK site - so irrelevant.

Now, your second point which seems to be ’non-compliant sites won’t be able to collect money from the UK and hence won’t bother to supply a service to the UK’? Well, OK fine, except it is trivially easy to bypass. Also, do you seriously think this will happen?