Manchester synagogue attack

Originally Posted by Paul

No idea what that is, so I looked it up.



This year it is apparently the "Evening of Wed, 1 Oct 2025 – Thu, 2 Oct 2025".


Given the above, I doubt the timing is a coincidence.

In ancient Israel, it was the one day of the year when the High Priest was allowed to go into the holiest part of the temple, carrying a blood sacrifice which he would present at the Ark of the Covenant.

As the temple and its system of animal sacrifices is long since gone, modern Jews use the festival today to focus on the principles behind it instead.

[Pierre]

Police have just confirmed the name of the suspect in this morning's attack as 35-year-old Jihad al Shamie, a British citizen of Syrian descent.

Well, the clue is right there in the ff’n name isn’t it?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, the clue is right there in the ff’n name isn’t it?

I think it means struggle in Arabic

It means holy war.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

One down; how many more perps to go?

Hioefully not many

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I think it means struggle in Arabic

Agreed. Quite a bit of nuance over what it means so everyone is right really.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiha...s%20of%20Islam.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Agreed. Quite a bit of nuance over what it means so everyone is right really.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiha...s%20of%20Islam.

There’s no nuance, everybody knows what it means. It mean Islamic conquest through war.

Anyone that says different is just obfuscating. It may have meant other things a long time ago.

Much like the swastika was a Hindu symbol of peace, but nobody would walk around with one tattooed on their arm now, because it is totally associated with Nazi’s.

Back in the day I recall newspapers noting that the DVLA had blacklisted the registration number J1HAD.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

'Everybody knows' is not a source, it's just your echo chamber. I doubt anyone's going to give their son a headstart in life by naming him 'Islamic conquest by war'.

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Chris

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber.

I suppose that could be said about many comments, yours included

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I don't think you are right. Cheders are Sunday schools.

and these aren't them, never said they were, they're normal schools

Originally Posted by Chris

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber.

Can't find the post you quoted but I wonder if you remember the hooha years ago when those US white supremacists tried to register their child's name as Aryan Race? Turned out Aryan had an older brother and sister will almost as ridiculous names iirc

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

There’s no nuance, everybody knows what it means. It mean Islamic conquest through war.

Anyone that says different is just obfuscating. It may have meant other things a long time ago.

Much like the swastika was a Hindu symbol of peace, but nobody would walk around with one tattooed on their arm now, because it is totally associated with Nazi’s.

Agreed. A man called "Jihad" murders some Jews; a whole load of pirrocks at Waterloo Station (or somewhere) give it the "river to the sea treatment" and we're debating the square root of the meaning of the word "jihad".

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

Might I politely suggest that you refusing to believe *anyone* would do such a thing arises from views acquired in your own echo chamber.

Maybe I should have said 'highly unlikely'. The Wikipedia article is not an echo chamber and worth a read.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Maybe I should have said 'highly unlikely'. The Wikipedia article is not an echo chamber and worth a read.

I’d suggest the Wikipedia editor community is very much an echo chamber all of its own, but that would be another topic.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

I’d suggest the Wikipedia editor community is very much an echo chamber all of its own, but that would be another topic.

Indeed. But the more pertinent question to ask in this context is "Is it better than anyone knows?".