Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Oh and we can add Tunisia into the mix as well

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-port-tunisia

The problem with pitching this arguement to Sephi is that in his belief that Muslims are trying to take over the world he sees the Israeli military as the perfect proxy for western nations. Somewhere in this thread iirc it’s stated about ‘looking east’ (or somilar)

There's plenty of evidence that they are. Starting small and growing organically. Yep - we'll all be facing east in a few decades.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

There's plenty of evidence that they are. Starting small and growing organically. Yep - we'll all be facing east in a few decades.

Ah so you see Israel as the spearhead of your wish for a modern day reenactment of the crusades.

Good to know

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Ah so you see Israel as the spearhead of your wish for a modern day reenactment of the crusades.

Good to know

No. You see me as seeing Israel as the spearhead for whatever nonsense you said.

Israel is over-defending itself.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Israel is over-defending itself.

Do you think Russia and Iran are over-defending themselves too?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Do you think Russia and Iran are over-defending themselves too?

Did you pull that out of the blue? Iran is the bad actor behind Middle East terrorism which has resulted in Israel's attack on Gaza.

Russia doesn't come into the Middle East picture, being a regional terrorist in Europe.

https://www.ispionline.it/en/publica...-region-201095

Libya is Russia’s gateway for Africa

“While Russia maintains a reduced footprint in Syria, its strategic horizon has shifted to Africa.

In this context, Moscow’s support for Khalifa Haftar’s Libyan Arab Armed Forces (LAAF) is not about allegiance but leverage – securing a foothold in the Mediterranean, embedding itself in Libya’s economy, and extending its reach into the Sahel.

Wagner mercenaries and Russian warplanes have bolstered Haftar, yet his reliance on Moscow underscores his role as a tool rather than a partner.

Russia is not simply filling a vacuum; it is shaping the battlespace, exploiting fragmentation and European inertia to entrench itself. The West remains reactive, missing the larger shift. Libya is not an endpoint but a launchpad. Moscow is not retreating. It is expanding.”

[Carth]

I guess they tried selling weapons to the USA and European Countries but they said no thanks. China probably weren't interested either.

Gotta make a rouble or two somehow, seeing as nobody (hahaha) is buying their oil/gas.

[1andrew1]

Spain and Italy to protect aid to Gaza.

Spain to join Italy in sending warships to protect Gaza aid flotilla

As the war in Gaza and the mounting humanitarian crisis there dominates the UN General Assembly, Spain and Italy are sending warships to protect a flotilla carrying vital aid and campaigners like Greta Thunberg, which is trying to break the Israeli sea blockade.

Italy's defence minister Guido Crosetto announced this morning he would send a second frigate to escort the 52 civilian boats of the Global Sumud Flotilla (GSF) after organisers said they had been targeted by drones off Greece this week.

The GSF said several boats reported explosions and unidentified objects being dropped, accusing Israel of a "dangerous escalation".

Speaking yesterday, Crosetto expressed "the strongest condemnation" of the "attack" on the flotilla using "drones by currently unidentified perpetrators".

Pedro Sanchez, the Spanish prime minister, said a naval vessel would be dispatched today to assist the flotilla if necessary.

https://news.sky.com/story/un-latest...raine-13435340

[Sephiroth]

The so-called flotilla is made up of a bunch of trouble-makers. Percussion fireworks dropped on them from drones is about right.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The so-called flotilla is made up of a bunch of trouble-makers. Percussion fireworks dropped on them from drones is about right.

Why so-called? It is a flotilla.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Why so-called? It is a flotilla.

Does it matter?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Does it matter?

I'm interested in why you call it that.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The so-called flotilla is made up of a bunch of trouble-makers.

Based on what information ?

[Sephiroth]

Based on my opinion of Greta Thunberg and thus her ilk.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Do you think Russia and Iran are over-defending themselves too?

Russia was not attacked, and is the aggressor.

Iran has been funding several terrorist proxy organisations and attacking Israel.

Your comparison is immature.