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		|  05-09-2025, 09:56 | #766 |  
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		|  05-09-2025, 10:06 | #767 |  
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	Yours is an opinion.  Not a statement of truth.  You don't like Farage and colour your posts accordingly.Quote: 
	
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			To be fair Seph, a lot of people (and much of the media) don't like Farage and his 'gang'. 
It remains to be seen in future voting if those that don't like him are in greater number than those that liked Europe, which was in itself a master class in 'not reading the room'    
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		|  05-09-2025, 11:02 | #769 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Yours is an opinion.  Not a statement of truth.  You don't like Farage and colour your posts accordingly.
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		|  05-09-2025, 12:03 | #770 |  
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			Different I know but 
I think I've only voted about 5 times in the 50 odd years I've been eligible to, and there's probably many who've never bothered at all . . and the wife is one of them. She's quite happy and contented as long as she can turn the TV on and see soap operas, programs about dogs, hospital dramas, and all the shit shows with celebrities in them. 
Given the state of apathy surrounding voting, Farage is probably in the range of 'normal'     
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		|  05-09-2025, 12:21 | #771 |  
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		|  05-09-2025, 15:34 | #773 |  
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			Given the way the laws works in UK , is he that far off a authoritarian  state , nanny doesn't  describe  it any more.
		 
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		|  05-09-2025, 15:55 | #774 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  He was doing the whole country a service by highlighting to our American friends, and the whole world, how bad and authoritarian our government has become that any global citizen anywhere in the world could make a comment on any social media platform, and if they happened to enter the U.K. they could be arrested for it. |  Hes probably not wrong, but given events this year I dont think the US is a great example either.
		 
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		|  05-09-2025, 16:33 | #775 |  
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			The US is just the other side of the coin; people have been arrested and even deported for leading protests over Gaza that were not violent. Citizens themselves have protection from the 1st Amendment, but even then, the Government will use what power it has to make life difficult for you. 
Being free speech is easy when it's speech you like; the test is when it's speech you don't. Farage is no different in wanting police action against speech he doesn't like: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...milkshake-joke 
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		| The BBC has defended the comedian Jo Brand against claims she incited violence in comments she made during a radio show. 
 Brand, who joined the Heresy talk show on Radio 4 as a guest on Tuesday, joked about throwing battery acid at “unpleasant characters” instead of milkshakes.
 
 Nigel Farage, the leader of the Brexit party and one of several European election candidates that had milkshakes thrown on them in recent weeks, tweeted: “This is incitement of violence and the police need to act.”
 
 On the show, Brand said: “Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?”
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			Just seen a clip of Andrea Jenkins in sequins singing her way onto the reform stage.  The future is indeed bleak
		 
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		|  07-09-2025, 10:11 | #779 |  
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			Some clarifications/re-phrases/mis-speaks… 
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...prime-minister 
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		| we will stop the boats within two weeks of winning government.” |  Saturday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c237k55y90ko 
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		| he would stop the boats within two weeks of passing laws |  Last November
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...riend-property 
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		| “I’ve just exchanged contracts on the house that I’ll be living there in – is that good enough? … I’ve bought a house in Clacton. What more do you want me to do?” |  Last January
 
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		| He also told LBC in January that he had bought a house in Clacton, saying: “That’s why you can see me out, often on a Saturday morning, out buying the essentials – limes, tonic, all that sort of thing.” |  Yesterday
https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-far...atter-13426302 
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		| He admitted to me that he made a mistake when he said it was his property. 
 He said he "shouldn't have said 'I', I should have said 'we'. It's her money. It's her asset. I own none of it. But I just happen to spend some time there".
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