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			How long before she strides confidently into a well paid role with a private firm (possibly one with close Government links) 
 . . . hey, do you think Reform will be interested?    
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			it seems that ethics isn't a place down south  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  She might come back as Minister in a year or two. |  minister for Tax evasion?
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 Starmer dealt trade blow as investment minister Gustafsson quits
 
The former boss of Darktrace is quitting Sir Keir Starmer's government after less than a year as a minister in the House of Lords, Sky News learns.
https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-d...quits-13425429 
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			Well, she deserved that   The Sir said she has acted with integrity. That will be picked over by the press. Apparently, her former Ashton house was overvalued at £625,000. And, at £625,000, this is a significant IHT threshold. So that smacks of thought through intention. So was her house overvalued?  Then, why Hove?  And the declarations of which was first home/second home when she had a free gaff in London. Finally, live by the sword (depicting Tories as “****”), and the one law for them and another law for “us”, her petard is now truly hoisted. A bad egg indeed. 
 
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			Glad she resigned, but once again you are making stuff up - she called a Tory MP, Chris Clarkson*, ‘****’ - you have exaggerated this to include all Tories…
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Glad she resigned, but once again you are making stuff up - she called a Tory MP, Chris Clarkson*, ‘****’ - you have exaggerated this to include all Tories…
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		| Last month Ms Rayner was reported to have called Conservative ministers "a bunch of ****" and described the prime minister as a "racist, homophobic misogynist". |  
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			Rayner was apparently one of the government's most relatable and popular figures. 
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			I don't think they can go much lower.
 I am beginning to think the country is fundamentally ungovernable. We have talentless politicians with no talent, backbone or even a coherent sense of what they believe. We have a population that doesn't want to make up trade-offs or compromises; they want Scandinavian services with American taxes, and they've been encouraged that this is possible by simply stopping migration, making 'efficiency' savings or having wealth taxes.  We can't build anything because politicians won't commit to projects that will outlast their governance, because NIMBYs will move heaven and earth to exploit every mechanism at their disposal to stop any progress on anything and a legal system that enables them.
 
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			Dont worry, if certain people on this forum are an indication, they could do much worse things and still be defended to death, while blaming the tories.   
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			Read the independent adviser on ministerial standard's 3-page report here including 
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		| I believe Ms Rayner has acted with integrity and with a dedicated and exemplary commitment to public service. I consider, however, that her unfortunate failure to settle her SDLT liability at the correct level, coupled with the fact that this was established only following intensive public scrutiny, leads me to advise you that, in relation to this matter, she cannot be considered to have met the “highest possible standards of proper conduct” as envisaged by the Code. Accordingly, it is with deep regret that I must advise you that in these circumstances, I consider the Code to have been breached. |  |  
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			In the spirit of Hugh, Rayner can now be where she is needed: looking after her disabled child in Ashton-under-Lyne.
 Conversely, she could live in her newly purchased Hove home, but again, in the spirit of Hugh, she now meet her obligations to her constituents.
 
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		| Originally Posted by Hugh   Glad she resigned, but once again you  are making stuff up - she called a Tory MP, Chris Clarkson*, ‘****’ -  you have exaggerated this to include all Tories…
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  [COLOR="Blue"]Do you think she acted with integrity?
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But as I posted yesterday, it was only a matter of time as to when she left.
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