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 Did they ask her? 
 
Anyway,  I think we’ve done this to death now.
 
It may be that t’s were crossed and i’s dotted and all the legal people did everything right. Which just leaves me to say, in that case, the law is an ass.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			28-08-2025, 18:53
			
			
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				Which just leaves me to say, in that case, the law is an ass. 
			
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			29-08-2025, 12:08
			
			
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				Very very true 
			
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 So is Starmer.  He (through Reeves) and Miliband are dismantling our economy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-08-2025, 12:36
			
			
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				Did they ask her?  
 
Anyway,  I think we’ve done this to death now. 
 
It may be that t’s were crossed and i’s dotted and all the legal people did everything right. Which just leaves me to say, in that case, the law is an ass. 
			
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 I think that's a far more logical conclusion to come to than your initial suggestion that Starmer had somehow shaped the sentence.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2025, 14:47
			
			
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				I think that's a far more logical conclusion to come to than your initial suggestion that Starmer had somehow shaped the sentence.    
			
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			29-08-2025, 15:51
			
			
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				Andrew finally admits that Starmer has absolutely zero influence anywhere    
			
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 Fortunately, our judiciary is not run in the political way that some countries'  set-ups are. It's a Starmer-free zone.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2025, 16:14
			
			
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			I wonder if it is Starmer free. He is the lawyers’ lawyer and certainly knows a good few of them.  It wouldn’t surprise me if he was involved in stuff behind the scenes.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-08-2025, 16:53
			
			
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				I wonder if it is Starmer free. He is the lawyers’ lawyer and certainly knows a good few of them.  It wouldn’t surprise me if he was involved in stuff behind the scenes.  
 
			
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			29-08-2025, 17:00
			
			
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				I wonder if it is Starmer free. He is the lawyers’ lawyer and certainly knows a good few of them.  It wouldn’t surprise me if he was involved in stuff behind the scenes.  
 
			
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 The rule for British PMs is you make your money when you're not in the role. So likely 2029 at this rate.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2025, 17:05
			
			
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 Yes - you do.
 
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 The rule is one thing.  Suspicion is another. 
 
Even if the suspicion is unfounded, they can make laws that have the same effect.  Some very bad laws have been passed under Starmer, particularly where free speech is concerned. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I’m not the one posting conspiracy theories…
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Meanwhile, a likely sigh of relief from the government as it overturns the injunction to remove asylum seekers from the Epping hotel.  
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...fac5ecf5&ei=12
 
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				 Some very bad laws have been passed under Starmer, particularly where free speech is concerned. 
 
			
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 I think you're either getting confused with Reform and its refusal to work with the local press in Nottingham or with the Conservatives' ban on discussing the data breach of Afghanistan nationals who had worked for the UK.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Yes - it was always going to win that appeal.  The Council did not process within the statutory period the hotel owner's application for change of use.  That needed to be given due weight at the original injunction hearing.  Also, the government had a clear interest at being a party to the case. 
 
Massive screw-up by the Epping Council.  They should withdraw their application because otherwise they will be hit for significant costs at the Epping public's expense. 
 
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				Meanwhile, a likely sigh of relief from the government as it overturns the injunction to remove asylum seekers from the Epping hotel.  
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...fac5ecf5&ei=12
 
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I think you're either getting confused with Reform and its refusal to work with the local press in Nottingham or with the Conservatives' ban on discussing the data breach of Afghanistan nationals who had worked for the UK.  
			
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				Yes - it was always going to win that appeal.  The Council did not process within the statutory period the hotel owner's application for change of use.  That needed to be given due weight at the original injunction hearing.  Also, the government had a clear interest at being a party to the case. 
 
Massive screw-up by the Epping Council.  They should withdraw their application because otherwise they will be hit for significant costs at the Epping public's expense. 
 
 
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What are you on about?  The government is the one passing laws and free speech in the UK is under serious threat. 
			
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cger45p0lv0o
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				The  Reform UK leader of Nottinghamshire County Council has banned a local  newspaper from speaking to him or any of his councillors "with immediate  effect". 
 
Mick  Barton has banned the Nottingham Post and its online arm Nottinghamshire  Live over what the BBC understands was a disagreement about a story it  ran on local government reorganisation. 
 
 
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			29-08-2025, 19:40
			
			
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			The Government - the Labour Government -  now seem to have free reign on filling hotels with migrants - at our expense. 
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