Reform UK's chronicles

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’d vote for Beelzebub himself if he promised to end illegal migration and reduce legal migration to <10,000.

This is the no.1 issue for me at the moment.

But what about the impact on road safety? All those unwashed cars on the road would be a recipe for disaster. Be careful what you wish for.

[Sephiroth]

The nation voted for Beelzebub who promised to end illegal immigration.

Reform UK's policy, apparently, is to push the boats back to France. I might go along with that if they acknowledged that this would intentionally cause an international incident with France so that matters could be brought to a head. That needs to be openy said so that we can gauge France's reaction

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

But what about the impact on road safety? All those unwashed cars on the road would be a recipe for disaster. Be careful what you wish for.

Huh

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The nation voted for Beelzebub who promised to end illegal immigration.

Reform UK's policy, apparently, is to push the boats back to France. I might go along with that if they acknowledged that this would intentionally cause an international incident with France so that matters could be brought to a head. That needs to be openy said so that we can gauge France's reaction

Sorry to bring reality into this, but how exactly would Reform UK "push the boats back to France"?

Large poles?

It might just encourage France to be even less bothered about securing the coastline or the Eurotunnel. We also need cooperation from France on all sorts of issues other than immigration. Souring relations with your direct neighbours is rarely productive.

I don't see how you solve this unless you make it harder for them to enter France in the first place. Let's face it, what incentive is there for France to make it hard to leave France for Britain? If it were the other way around, the British Government wouldn't exactly be popular for helping France but keeping prospective immigrants on our shores instead of theirs.

I think we should look at legal routes and find further ways to discourage illegal crossings. Introduce ID cards as well.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Sorry to bring reality into this, but how exactly would Reform UK "push the boats back to France"?

Large poles?

Oh dear. Trust you to twist my clearly made point.

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Originally Posted by Damien

It might just encourage France to be even less bothered about securing the coastline or the Eurotunnel. We also need cooperation from France on all sorts of issues other than immigration. Souring relations with your direct neighbours is rarely productive.

I don't see how you solve this unless you make it harder for them to enter France in the first place. Let's face it, what incentive is there for France to make it hard to leave France for Britain? If it were the other way around, the British Government wouldn't exactly be popular for helping France but keeping prospective immigrants on our shores instead of theirs.

I think we should look at legal routes and find further ways to discourage illegal crossings. Introduce ID cards as well.

It might just encourage France to be even less bothered about securing the coastline or the Eurotunnel. We also need cooperation from France on all sorts of issues other than immigration. Souring relations with your direct neighbours is rarely productive.

Sounds like bending over to me. If the objective is to stop this invasion by economic migrants or potential terrorists, then something drastic needs doing. France is not our friend and they are laughing at us with each boat that crosses to the UK.

I think we should look at legal routes and find further ways to discourage illegal crossings. Introduce ID cards as well.

Well, that's a leftie line if ever there was one. The British population is being replaced; is that what you want?

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Oh dear. Trust you to twist my clearly made point.

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Sounds like bending over to me. If the objective is to stop this invasion by economic migrants or potential terrorists, then something drastic needs doing. France is not our friend and they are laughing at us with each boat that crosses to the UK.



Well, that's a leftie line if ever there was one. The British population is being replaced; is that what you want?

Oh dear, trust you not to answer the question…

This is typical of Reform U.K. policies - all sound bite, no real world explanation…

It’s been a while since you mentioned the Great Replacement Theory…

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Paul

Huh

Round this part of the world, the people Seph, Pierre et al seem to fear coming to the UK run friendly car wash operations. For what they charge it isn't worth getting your own hands wet. We'll miss them when they're gone.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The students have to pay for a CAS (Confirmation of Acceptance for Study) from an Accredited University, then for a Visa, then pay (at our local Uni) £27k per year (in advance) for an undergraduate course, around £29k each year (in advance) for Post-graduate course (£61k for Medicine).

Only PhD students are eligible to bring their dependents to the U.K., and the students have to prove they have the money to support themselves and their dependents.

https://aca-secretariat.be/newslette...aud-uncovered/

I didn’t have to look hard.

Originally Posted by Pierre

https://aca-secretariat.be/newslette...aud-uncovered/

I didn’t have to look hard.

That was over 10 years ago, about English Language testing in two small colleges - the rules were tightened after that.

What did that article have to do with the fees that the Overseas students have to pay, and the fact that only PhD students can bring dependents here?