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		|  16-07-2025, 18:00 | #556 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  It’ll be nice when the subscribers, sorry, members get to help decide things, rather than just Farage and a few cronies… |  Ask for your money back if you're not happy
		 
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	Might it be that the Reform UK members have joined because they agree with the Farage and his cohort?   Is there a push from Reform party members to them being able to decide things?Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  It’ll be nice when the subscribers, sorry, members get to help decide things, rather than just Farage and a few cronies… |  
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		|  16-07-2025, 18:40 | #558 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  What a lot of nonsense is spoken about this! So you think it’s more important to drive out our wealth creators than have the government save the wasted money instead. You really have a strange way of trying to balance the books! Even Rachel from Accounts knows that this is not the way to go about it!
 Having driven out the non-doms, you now want to go for the country’s jugular!
 
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 Agreed, and despite the fears over what it may mean, the electorate will vote Reform at the end of the day because they are the last hope for this country. The other parties simply are not in tune with what the majority are looking for. Farage expresses their exasperation, and that’s why he will win.
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					Originally Posted by denphone  They could not organise a piss up at a brewery let alone  run their own councils they are running now. |  i can assure you Nigel is no stranger to a piss up
		 
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		|  16-07-2025, 21:54 | #560 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  It’ll be nice when the subscribers, sorry, members get to help decide things, rather than just Farage and a few cronies… |  Do members of the Labour party get to decide things…………
		 
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		| Top Tory Suella Braverman's husband has quit Reform UK in a blow to Nigel Farage. 
 Rael Braverman, the partner of the former Home Secretary, said on Wednesday he had left the right-wing party "effective immediately".
 
 Ben Habib, a former co-leader of the party who also quit last year, said he was "not surprised" by the decision of Mr Braverman. He posted on X: "Anyone with a coherent political philosophy which puts the country at its centre is bound to fall out with the bad joke that is Reform Party UK."
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		|  17-07-2025, 01:19 | #562 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Do members of the Labour party get to decide things………… |  Using the above words as search terms in Google, the first item is how members are involved in, and at Party Conferences and the NPF, get to decide on Policy, and the third item is how members are involved in nominating and voting for the Party Leader.
 
Local Constituency Parties shortlist and select Election Candidates.
 
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			I’d vote for Beelzebub himself if he promised to end illegal migration and reduce legal migration to <10,000.
 This is the no.1 issue for me at the moment.
 
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					Originally Posted by Itshim   |  Yeah, we should definitely build a wall down Offa's Dyke and stop the Welsh crossing the border.
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  I’d vote for Beelzebub himself if he promised to end illegal migration and reduce legal migration to <10,000.
 This is the no.1 issue for me at the moment.
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What are your thoughts on the 400k Sponsored Study Visas per year?
		 
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		| What are your thoughts on the 400k Sponsored Study Visas per year? |  Haven’t seen it, don’t know the detail.
 
But my gut reaction would be no.
 
Student visas are a big loophole, with “student’s” allowed to bring their families with them.
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		|  19-07-2025, 22:06 | #570 |  
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Haven’t seen it, don’t know the detail.
 
But my gut reaction would be no.
 
Student visas are a big loophole, with “student’s” allowed to bring their families with them.
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What have you got against the Welsh? |  The students have to pay for a CAS (Confirmation of Acceptance for Study) from an Accredited University, then for a Visa, then pay (at our local Uni) £27k per year (in advance) for an undergraduate course, around £29k each year (in advance) for Post-graduate course (£61k for Medicine).
 
Only PhD students are eligible to bring their dependents to the U.K., and the students have to prove they have the money to support themselves and their dependents.
		 
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