Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Mr Holmes raised concerns using bank cards for ID will "undermine the security of the ballot box".

Nah. Mr Holmes is worried it will allow youngsters to vote for someone else.

It was I'm their manifesto, so Labour have a mandate. Granted, it is unusual for parties to actually do what they promised.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Nah. Mr Holmes is worried it will allow youngsters to vote for someone else.

It was I'm their manifesto, so Labour have a mandate. Granted, it is unusual for parties to actually do what they promised.

i thought they could use Pokemon cards but no one listens to me

You can get bank cards at less than 16, all my kids had one.

Seems like they finally realised that ID was a bad idea, and are watering it down to the point its ... well pointless.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Paul

You can get bank cards at less than 16, all my kids had one.

Seems like they finally realised that ID was a bad idea, and are watering it down to the point its ... well pointless.

you could send one of the kids to vote on your behalf using a card as id , just make sure they don't pass a toy shop on the way

[thenry]

Proxy vote

https://www.gov.uk/how-to-vote/votin...r-someone-else

My dads brother voted for my dad while he was out the country working. I wasn't aware of proxy votes so refrained only to get a bollocking

Originally Posted by Paul

You can get bank cards at less than 16, all my kids had one.

Seems like they finally realised that ID was a bad idea, and are watering it down to the point its ... well pointless.

Yup. Actually this change and that people will now be automatically registered to vote are the bigger changes from this bill IMO.

As for 16/17 year olds voting, I am fine with it. I think you need a good reason not to enfranchise people and 16 is probably as early as we can give the vote.

[nomadking]

Only 10 countries in the world have voting at 16. Not exactly widespread.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Only 10 countries in the world have voting at 16. Not exactly widespread.

We're trend setters. Well done the UK.

The young are the future. Trying to pick rhe crap hand they've been dealt. God help them.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Mr K

We're trend setters. Well done the UK.

The young are the future. Trying to pick rhe crap hand they've been dealt. God help them.

Up there with the likes of Cuba and Nicaragua?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yup. Actually this change and that people will now be automatically registered to vote are the bigger changes from this bill IMO.

As for 16/17 year olds voting, I am fine with it. I think you need a good reason not to enfranchise people and 16 is probably as early as we can give the vote.

16 year olds cannot frame their vote in terms of current affairs, taxes, economy, defence, driving and so on.

Labour's proposal is naked gerrymandering because they know that kids don't change up to being less socialist / more conservative until they've tasted proper life.

I remember the kerfuffle about the lowering of voting age to 18. Now we all accept it without a second thought.Speaking as a teacher I think 16 is the lowest age that can be applied to voting. Younger than that it will become problematic.

Kids aren’t socialist, they’re contrarian and reactionary. Labour better hope this doesn’t bite them on the bum - when the kidz come to cast a ballot, Labour will be the establishment.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

Kids aren’t socialist, they’re contrarian and reactionary. Labour better hope this doesn’t bite them on the bum - when the kidz come to cast a ballot, Labour will be the establishment.

At least the next generation will own it, rather than given it, without a choice.

Originally Posted by Mr K

At least the next generation will own it, rather than given it, without a choice.

Ok, quick reality check - its only 2 years between 16 & 18, and general elections tend to be every 4 or 5 years, so the majority will see no difference.

Even council elections are every 2/3 or 4 years (depending on how they choose to run them).

They will also have to be registered to vote (how many do you think will bother, they'll still be at school).

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

Ok, quick reality check - its only 2 years between 16 & 18, and general elections tend to be every 4 or 5 years, so the majority will see no difference.

Even council elections are every 2/3 or 4 years (depending on how they choose to run them).

They will also have to be registered to vote (how many do you think will bother, they'll still be at school).

But the young socialists WILL bother. Starmer joined the Labour party at 16.