08-06-2025, 12:38
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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09-06-2025, 13:04
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yx...5d4b522dd#post
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Pensioners with income of below £35k to get payment
Rachel Reeves has announced changes to the winter fuel payment - here's the finer detail:
Who’s eligible this winter? Everyone over the state pension age in England and Wales with an income of, or below, £35,000 a year. Scotland and Northern Ireland announced their own updates in light of the government's cuts last year - we'll bring you more on that in our next post.
How many people will benefit? The government puts the figure at nine million - or more than 75% of pensioners across the two countries.
How much will be paid? As before, £200 per household with a pensioner under 80, or £300 per household where there is someone over 80, will be made automatically.
What’s changed? Following cuts last year, the payment was limited to those receiving pension credit or another means-tested benefit, which meant millions of older people missed out.
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09-06-2025, 13:05
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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This will upset the rabid lefty pensioner haters
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09-06-2025, 13:37
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Massive own goal this entire thing.
On the face of it the winter fuel allowance isn't really justifiable in the age of the triple lock but it doesn't cost much and it's a huge political cost to get rid of it.
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09-06-2025, 13:51
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
So every pensioner is going get the £200/£300, but then those with a taxable income of over £35,000 will have the money deducted in tax.
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09-06-2025, 14:00
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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So every pensioner is going get the £200/£300, but then those with a taxable income of over £35,000 will have the money deducted in tax.
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Is that how they're going to do it then? I saw that speculation a few days ago.
Probably the best way to make sure the people who need it will get it but not worth the hassle IMO. Just keep it universal.
Not to beat a dead horse but for the political damage they did with this they might as well have got rid of the earnings link in the triple lock, making it a double lock. At least that would have solved a long term issue and given them more money to spend.
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09-06-2025, 15:21
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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So every pensioner is going get the £200/£300, but then those with a taxable income of over £35,000 will have the money deducted in tax.
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Or they can just opt out 
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09-06-2025, 18:41
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I would say that that’s most of them.
---------- Post added at 17:41 ---------- Previous post was at 17:39 ----------
If they had just done that to begin with, I don’t think anyone would have complained.
These are our political best…………
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09-06-2025, 19:11
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
what about the back pay we missed a whole years allowance
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11-06-2025, 18:55
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
See the great lady thinks Swansea is in England. Check out were free school meals will be going thanks to her
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11-06-2025, 19:05
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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See the great lady thinks Swansea is in England. Check out were free school meals will be going thanks to her
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https://order-order.com/2025/06/11/f...-school-meals/
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Rachel said in her platitudinous Spending Review speech:
“Because of the decisions we have made in this spending review and working with my RHF the Education Secretary last week, this government announced that Free School Meals will be extended to over half a million more children. That policy alone will lift 100,000 children out of poverty. Children in schools from Tower Hamlets to Sunderland to Swansea to Bridge End.”
The Chancellor may not be aware that Swansea is in Wales, which is not covered by DfE’s extension of Free School Meals. They are limited to England. It’s devolved…
Incidentally the Welsh government is launching its own review into Free School Meals. Maybe they should have told Rachel…
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14-06-2025, 19:42
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Quite rightly forced into a new inquiry about the Pakistani Rape and Trafficking gangs.
Which, ironically, according to Labour’s adoption of the All Party Parliamentary Group on British Muslim’s definition of ‘Islamophobia’ ……..would make him Islamaphobic, and according to his own words he himself is jumping on a “far-right bandwagon”
It’s all welcome, but it will be a fudge, Labour, certainly at the local government level, and potentially MPs, are well beneath the shadow of this issue. So expect the scope to be deflected away from identifying those complicit in covering it all up.
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14-06-2025, 19:54
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Terms of Reference would be useful to see. The exclusions that leave governments alone.
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27-06-2025, 13:46
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Things not going so well ...
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The government confirms a U-turn on its cuts to disability benefits in a bid to avert rebellion by more than 120 Labour backbenchers
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cj937xylzyet
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27-06-2025, 13:56
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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This is a terrible idea, it will create a two tier benefit system
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