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					Originally Posted by Hugh  But they’re not US cars as sold in the USA, they are Europeanised versions - the US versions aren’t popular here. |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  The US versions are LHD for a start!   No - you were worming your way out of a mistaken remark..
 There is no marketing for US cars here either.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? |  They're also priced in dollars and have American license plates!
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  The US versions are LHD for a start!   No - you were worming your way out of a mistaken remark..
 There is no marketing for US cars here either.
 
 |  Eu car ads state usually not to UK spec , is that really  all about the steering wheel.  It's a bad as labelling coffee  as hot or bag of peanuts contain  nuts , which they dont   
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			Ford and Tesla are big-selling US car brands in Europe so I'm not sure what Trump's complaining about. It's their choice where they choose to manufacture those vehicles and I know Tesla has chosen Germany, the US and China.
 Until the US owners sold out to what is now Stellantis, Europe did have a good presence from Chrysler Europe and GM Vauxhall-Opel. No one forced those two US companies to divest their European operations.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Ford and Tesla are big-selling US car brands in Europe so I'm not sure what Trump's complaining about. It's their choice where they choose to manufacture those vehicles and I know Tesla has chosen Germany, the US and China.
 Until the US owners sold out to what is now Stellantis, Europe did have a good presence from Chrysler Europe and GM Vauxhall-Opel. No one forced those two US companies to divest their European operations.
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		| Russia brands Donald Trump a 'clown' suffering from 'dementia' in brutal attack 
 Kremlin bots have started ruthlessly attacking Donald Trump, claiming he is a "clown" who suffers from "dementia".
 
 A sudden shift came after the US president accused Vladimir Putin of having gone "absolutely CRAZY!"
 
 Officially, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed that Trump was suffering from an "emotional overload".
 
 Lately, sensing Trump's support for Putin over Ukraine, comments have been restrained or positive.
 
 But after the "crazy" tirade, Putin propaganda bots - automated or semi-automated online accounts massively used to disseminate Russian government or intelligence service narratives backing the dictator - went into overdrive, according to monitoring outlet Botnadzor.
 
 "It's not Putin who's gone crazy, but Trump, apparently, this is hereditary for all US presidents, a chair and dementia as a gift," claimed one troll.
 
 The Kremlin bot warriors accused him of suffering "seasonal bipolar disorder", and asked if he is "blind or what?"
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		| A US federal court has blocked President Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs, in a major blow to a key part of his economic plan. 
 How it happened: The Court of International Trade ruled that an emergency law invoked by the White House does not give the president unilateral authority to impose tariffs on nearly every country.
 
 The Manhattan-based court said the US Constitution gives Congress exclusive powers to regulate commerce with other nations and this is not superseded by the president's remit to safeguard the economy.
 
 The court also blocked a separate set of levies the Trump administration imposed on China, Mexico and Canada, which were in response to what the White House said was the unacceptable flow of drugs and illegal immigrants into the US.
 
 What's not included: Steel and aluminium tariffs are not affected, as they fall under a different law.
 
 How the White House reacted: "It is not for unelected judges to decide how to properly address a national emergency," the White House said as it launched an appeal against the ruling.
 
 What next? The ruling gave the White House 10 days to complete the bureaucratic process of halting the tariffs, although most are currently suspended anyway.
 
 The immediate implications of the court's ruling are unclear. The case needs to go through the appeals process - a higher court might be more Trump-friendly…
 
 … Here is what we know so far about the ruling on the tariffs.
 
 The US Court of International Trade says Trump overstepped his authority - using a 1977 federal economic emergency law.
 
 However, the law does not specify tariffs as a tool available to the president to protect the United States from economic threats.
 
 Trump invoked its powers anyway, saying drastic action was needed.
 
 The court agreed with a group of businesses and a coalition of state officials who had filed two separate lawsuits. The court ruled the law “does not authorise” the president to use the emergency powers law to issue tariffs.
 
 The decisions can be appealed to the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington DC, and ultimately the US Supreme Court. The White House swiftly filed a notice of appeal.
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			All these cases end up at the Supreme Court who are in Trump's pocket anyway. Any other courts are irrelevant.  Corruption always wins in the US of 2025.
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  All these cases end up at the Supreme Court who are in Trump's pocket anyway. Any other courts are irrelevant.  Corruption always wins in the US of 2025. |  The Supreme court ruled 9-0 against him just last month, that's an emphatic rejection of both him and what you've claimed, even thomas and alto told him to shove it. Can't say I'm surprised by Hugh's post though, if you elect a criminal you should expect them to have no respect for the law
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