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		|  10-05-2025, 00:44 | #421 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Yeah, yeah. The devils we know are Labour and the Conservatives, so no thanks.
 If you always go for the ‘tried and tested’ that have rarely come up with solutions the public want, it’s time to move beyond that. Reform is saying a lot of things the man in the street really thinks, and that’s what bothers people such as your good self, who are quite happy to inflict your way onto everyone else, whether they like it or not.
 
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 We wouldn’t have landed the recent trade deals with the US, India, Australia and the CTPPP if we were still in the EU. We would be paying 27.5% on car exports instead of 10%, and we would not have achieved 0% on steel.
 
 We will soon feel the impact of these trade deals and once that happens, it will slowly dawn on the remainers that there’s no going back and that Brexit was a good thing after all.
 
 Even boring old Starmer seems to have latched on to that.
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		|  10-05-2025, 00:54 | #422 |  
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			Also we’ve hardly “landed” anything.  At best we’ve somewhat mitigated the damage Trump is determined to do to the world economy, as it affects us.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Also we’ve hardly “landed” anything.  At best we’ve somewhat mitigated the damage Trump is determined to do to the world economy, as it affects us. |  Well said, we'll make a Remainer out of you yet.      |  
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		|  10-05-2025, 01:23 | #424 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Well said, we'll make a Remainer out of you yet.     |  Not really, being outside the EU has given us freedom to move more quickly and leverage Trump’s affection for his Scottish granny    |  
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		|  10-05-2025, 03:29 | #425 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Also we’ve hardly “landed” anything.  At best we’ve somewhat mitigated the damage Trump is determined to do to the world economy, as it affects us. |  Get real, Chris. What did you expect? That’s a pretty good example of armchair commentary. What would you have done, given that Trump is calling the shots?
		 
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		|  10-05-2025, 08:15 | #426 |  
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			Another Reform councillor has resigned saying he doesn't have time to do it.  He's been criticised for causing the cost of a by election.
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		|  10-05-2025, 09:50 | #427 |  
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	Shame on you.  The EU is fragmenting before your very eyes (and, I hope leading to implosion).  That’s Slovakia, Romania and Hungary becoming pro-Putin.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Well said, we'll make a Remainer out of you yet.     |  
 
 
 
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Get real, Chris. What did you expect? That’s a pretty good example of armchair commentary. What would you have done, given that Trump is calling the shots? |  Hello pot, this is kettle calling!
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		|  10-05-2025, 10:15 | #429 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Hello pot, this is kettle calling! |  Hello stove here 25% tariff for sitting on me    
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		|  10-05-2025, 10:38 | #430 |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  If it’s written off it’s because it’s irretrievable. And your solution is….
 Yes, better change the subject!
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Reform is saying a lot of things the man in the street wants to hear |  There, fixed it for you.
 
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				 and that’s what bothers people such as your good self, who are quite happy to inflict your way onto everyone else, whether they like it or not |  .
 
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		|  21-05-2025, 00:57 | #431 |  
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			Good news Reform fans. Farage is planning a visit to the UK next week.    
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 Reform UK leader, who has made at least nine trips overseas since general election, says he will return to UK next week
 
 Nigel Farage missed the parliamentary debate on the biggest reset to Brexit since the referendum because he is overseas on holiday, the Reform UK leader has said.
 
 Following speculation that he was on holiday in France, Farage, who has not been seen in the Commons this week and did not present his GB News show on Monday, released a statement confirming he was away.
 
 “There seems to be great consternation in the press that they have not seen me for 48 hours. Well, they will have to wait some time,” he wrote.
 
 “After months of touring the UK in the run-up to our hugely successful local election campaign I will resume travelling the country next week as Reform moves to the next stage.
 
 “Meanwhile I am having my first overseas break for three years, the jungle excepted. Well I say break … plenty of articles and fundraising calls!”
 
 In 2023 Farage went to the jungle in Australia to take part in the ITV reality TV show I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here! Since becoming the MP for Clacton last year, Farage has taken a number of overseas trips which were not entirely for parliamentary work.
 
 He has made at least nine trips abroad, including eight to the US, since last year’s general election, with many of them either funded by donors or undertaken for paid employment such as speeches.
 
 These included a visit to the US in support of Donald Trump in August last year where flights and accommodation for Farage and one staffer cost nearly £33,000, and a £27,000 trip to attend Trump’s inauguration in January this year.
 
 His holiday takes place while the Commons is sitting, despite the fact that the chamber goes into recess from Thursday, and does not sit all of next week.
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			I wonder who will be nervously watching the likely rise of Reform UK in Wales.
 
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		|  30-05-2025, 17:36 | #433 |  
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		|  30-05-2025, 21:49 | #434 |  
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			I'm afraid, as with Brexit  the UK population will find out the hard way about populists and their lies. It'll be a tough lesson.
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		|  31-05-2025, 20:08 | #435 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Pot calling the kettle, black! 
 Anyway, I thought you were a confirmed Tory Boy, OB? How did you get it so wrong?!
 |  I call it as I find it. The Conservatives are in a mess, there's no too ways about that. Same with Labour.
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I'm not sure at this point that Reform is able to justify some of their policies in funding terms.  How will they fund their commitment to abolishing Inheritance Tax, the £20,000 tax threshold, reduction in corporation tax?  They are open to attack - and Hugh has already posted an important analysis by The Economist.
 If my party, the Conservatives, don't come right, I would want Reform to be electable.
 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  We don’t have a Trade Deal with the US - we have a non-legally binding agreement to start talking about a Trade Deal. |  We have trade deals with individual States and of course the recent deal on tariffs. Look at the predicament of the EU.
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					Originally Posted by RichardCoulter  Another Reform councillor has resigned saying he doesn't have time to do it.  He's been criticised for causing the cost of a by election.
 I suspect that he didn't think that he'd actually win.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Hello pot, this is kettle calling! |  At least I am not a dreamer. I say things as I see them. Some live in the past.
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Irony alert    
Have you read your own posts? |  I'm not inflicting anything on anyone. Perhaps you should clarify what the hell you are talking about.
		 
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