Reform UK's chronicles

[Russ]

Well as long as it works for you, who cares eh?

Never mind the people who do a great job WFH.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All this WFH theory is spouting pure ignorance.

Let's say I'm sitting in the office on a three desk pod arrangement. My neighbour is on a call with his colleagues and I overhear something that impinges on my project, I can immediately react (as appropriate) rather than either be out of the loop entirely, or find out somewhat later (if at all).

As I said, bleedin' obvious.

And I can say possessing significantly more leadership experience than you that you’re completely and utterly wrong.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

And I can say possessing significantly more leadership experience than you that you’re completely and utterly wrong.

Er - maybe if we met and had a curry together we could compare notes on that.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Er - maybe if we met and had a curry together we could compare notes on that.

Thank you for the offer but I’ll pass .

Anyhoo, RTO mandates and the WFH argument digress away from this threads intended purpose. Start one if you want to continue this ?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

And I can say possessing significantly more leadership experience than you that you’re completely and utterly wrong.

You're Donald Trump i claim my $5

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All this WFH theory is spouting pure ignorance.

Let's say I'm sitting in the office on a three desk pod arrangement. My neighbour is on a call with his colleagues and I overhear something that impinges on my project, I can immediately react (as appropriate) rather than either be out of the loop entirely, or find out somewhat later (if at all).

As I said, bleedin' obvious.

I think if you believed that 100% you would either join a company where you could work in their office or relocate to the office of your Brussels overlords.

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Back to Reform. I see that they are implementing Putin's request to remove Ukranian flags from council buildings, under the guise of removing all non-British flags.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I But they're out at a garden centre, or Waitrose or summat and you have to await the opportunity for speaking to them (and maybe not in the same timeframe as you need it). Bleedin' obvious, really.

Does any employer actually allow that, Seph?

When I worked from home, I put in more hours than I did when in the office as there was no travelling time, and what’s more there were no interruptions from colleagues unless it was about work.

I was always available when needed as my telephone extension number would put callers straight through to me just as if I was at work in the office. I could attend meetings via Zoom or Teams or attend the office as required. It worked very well.

Once booked in at the start of the day, I was expected to be available until clocking off for lunch, etc. If I even dared to nip off to the shop, I would have been disciplined because I was being paid to work. There were tough performance measures and targets in place. Monthly staff meetings would be held to ensure everyone was on track and not falling behind with their targets. Any work overlaps you mentioned would be picked up at those meetings as everyone in the team related what they had been doing and what they were planning to do.

The way WFH works in some local authorities results in staff rarely being available, so we must ask ourselves what is going wrong in those councils. This is why Reform UK are focussing on this.

That’s how it should work, and office space should be reduced as a result, saving on cost. Hot desks were available if employees were required to come in for specific reasons. If organisations actually bothered to manage these schemes properly they could both save money and increase efficiency.

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Originally Posted by Russ

The company I work for has become much more productive since bringing in hybrid working. Keep them at home if it suits them.

Sounds like your company has got it right, Russ.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Surely, we want government and council staff to operate as efficiently as the private sector? Requiring staff to be in all the time who don't need to, just adds to the real estate costs and acts as a deterrent to good employees working there

Yes, agreed, as long as all the checks and balances are in place.

[Sephiroth]

Some companies might be relieved that some workers don't come into the office!

Reform UK need to tread carefully with this one.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Some companies might be relieved that some workers don't come into the office!

Reform UK need to tread carefully with this one.

it's not companies it's councils, reform didn't take over any companies.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Some companies might be relieved that some workers don't come into the office!

Reform UK need to tread carefully with this one.

Yes they need to treated carefully considering it would be a pointless move at best and silly “gesture politics’ at worse.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Surely, we want government and council staff to operate as efficiently as the private sector? Requiring staff to be in all the time who don't need to, just adds to the real estate costs and acts as a deterrent to good employees working there.

I’ve worked from home for well over a decade.

Private or public, doesn’t matter to me. I don’t get a refund for the heat, power, broadband I use at home for work, and have never asked for or expected one.

And as long as that is the same in the public sector, and tax payers realise the savings made by council workers working from home, then it’s a win win. Even Smurf Daddy must agree on that !

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Originally Posted by Russ

For those of us who work from home we have software that monitors our productivity.

I don’t have that, and would reject it.

I have set objectives, bau tasks and regular catch ups with my managers ( once a fortnight). If I was micro-managed by software or management I’d sack it off.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All this WFH theory is spouting pure ignorance.

Let's say I'm sitting in the office on a three desk pod arrangement. My neighbour is on a call with his colleagues and I overhear something that impinges on my project, I can immediately react (as appropriate) rather than either be out of the loop entirely, or find out somewhat later (if at all).

As I said, bleedin' obvious.

Or you’ve gone to the toilet and don’t hear it.

[RichardCoulter]

Apparently, Reform suspended one of their new councillors yesterday, pending an investigation.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Apparently, Reform suspended one of their new councillors yesterday, pending an investigation.

link

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Apparently, Reform suspended one of their new councillors yesterday, pending an investigation.

Yes, they act promptly on such matters. That’s novel, isn’t it?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, they act promptly on such matters. That’s novel, isn’t it?

Not novel at all, more routine. They removed 100 candidates last year.