Starmer’s chronicles

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

£200 isn't going to help much with anyone's fuel bill. But giving it to everyone regardless of wealth was daft. Even Paul McCartney and Elton John got it. Where to draw the line is the question, receiving pension credit seemed the only practical way to target it to those most at need. It we had the money by all means give it to to all but we dont as a result of the last 14 years. Where else to get the money from? The NHS? education?

I was talking about your reference to private schools, not the fuel allowance.

Originally Posted by nomadking

2.97 times is not that far off is it? Anyway the share price rose above 150 by the end of that year, so that IS more than 3 times.

Its not "more than tripled", nor did he work for them at the end of the year.
The claim was false, and the supposed defence of it incorrect as well, as is yours.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

Its not "more than tripled", nor did he work for them at the end of the year.
The claim was false, and the supposed defence of it incorrect as well, as is yours.

Any impact will tend to carry on afterwards. I doubt he remembered the share price for each and every day, and so could possibly have remembered the share price from later that year. The figures in the post state 2.97 times, so that is not far off 3 times. The article doesn't say "more than".

“During my time in charge, the company grew strongly, the share price tripled and it was the top-performing property investment share on the London Stock Exchange.”

Still nowhere near comparable to Reeves, Rayner, and Starmer, amongst others. Eg 10 is nowhere near 5 and a half or four and a half. Clothes are not miscellaneous office supplies.

Originally Posted by nomadking

I doubt he remembered the share price for each and every day, and so could possibly have remembered the share price from later that year.

If you claim to have tripled a price then the very least you do is check first, not rely on memory. The defender checked, and still got it wrong.

Originally Posted by nomadking

The figures in the post state 2.97 times, so that is not far off 3 times. The article doesn't say "more than".

You're right, it doesnt say "more than", my mistake.
However, thats beside the point - 2.97 is not 3.00 which was the claim. Almost tripled would have been correct.

Originally Posted by nomadking

Still nowhere near comparable to Reeves, Rayner, and Starmer, amongst others. Eg 10 is nowhere near 5 and a half or four and a half. Clothes are not miscellaneous office supplies.

Again, not the point. I never said they were comparable (nor do I think they are).

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

If you claim to have tripled a price then the very least you do is check first, not rely on memory. The defender checked, and still got it wrong.


You're right, it doesnt say "more than", my mistake.
However, thats beside the point - 2.97 is not 3.00 which was the claim. Almost tripled would have been correct.

Again, not the point. I never said they were comparable (nor do I think they are).

The post by Russ made the direct comparison. It was given as a comparable situation.

Originally Posted by nomadking

The post by Russ made the direct comparison. It was given as a comparable situation.

How is that relevant to the accuracy of the claim ?
It was incorrect, twice. I dont really know why you keep trying to argue otherwise.
I presume the fact you have tried to redirect the subject means you now concede it was inaccurate.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Got to be a witch, burn her !

I am sure there are a few pensioners would volunteer to light the fire. If not i would offer my services

[papa smurf]

The twelve lies of reevesmas

Reeves has “misspoke”[lied] about everything from her tax plans to her days as a dazzling child chess prodigy, and they’re unravelling, one by one. So here goes.

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/pe...es-destroy-her

[Russ]

All politicians lie remember.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ

All politicians lie remember.

Originally Posted by Russ

All politicians lie remember.

So you keep saying.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul

So you keep saying.

Think he's just reminding people of the bs we all had to endure for 14 years

Now it's the other side doing it (to a far, far lesser degree) of course it's different and it's like those 14 years never happened.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Think he's just reminding people of the bs we all had to endure for 14 years

Now it's the other side doing it (to a far, far lesser degree) of course it's different and it's like those 14 years never happened.

Bingo!

Someone gets it

More WhatsApp woes for (Ex) Labour MP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4ndry4k54o

Parliament's standards watchdog has launched an investigation into MP Andrew Gwynne.

Gwynne was sacked as a minister and suspended from the Labour Party earlier this month after a newspaper reported offensive messages in a WhatsApp group.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Paul

It doesnt get any better for labour, another of their MPs in trouble.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6244gk9d4po

Former Labour MP Mike Amesbury gets 10 weeks in the slammer for

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2rnp29p7xt