Reform UK's chronicles

[Russ]

I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Russ

Reform failed in both council by-elections yesterday.

They’ve won just 7 council seats from 179 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Impressive stuff….

I don’t think you understand. Farage is looking to the next council elections with his newly selected candidates in a major push that will give the electorate more confidence to vote for them nationally in 2029.

The figures you have just quoted are irrelevant.

The party hasn’t started yet, and you are a party pooper.

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Originally Posted by Russ

I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

In terms of electoral seats they are far behind and always will be whilst we have our wonderful electoral system and a divided right wing.

Not true. They just need to build up their party member base in every constituency, which I think is entirely possible. Live and learn.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's why I think Farage will do a deal with the Conservative Party.

To date, he's been very keen to put a clean line between his political parties and the BNP. He's also not supported Tommy Robinson to any great extent; compare his considered approach with that of Musk and other lesser-informed right-wingers.

It was interesting briefly watching the Reform UK Conference in Surrey on YouTube last week. The comments were flooded with supporters berating the Party for not coming out in whole-hearted support for Tommy Robinson. I suspect that Farage knows he'll still have these supporters backing him though.

Farage needs to keep his party as clean as possible if he's going into an electoral pact with the Conservative Party and potentially power in the next election. If that means falling out with Musk and foregoing Musk's money and influence then so be it. Farage understands how our electoral system works and Musk understands how space rockets work. But not vice versa.

I'm afraid that Cameron could well have opened Pandora's box.

I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

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Originally Posted by Russ

I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

This means nothing. The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

I doubt we ever will.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

This means nothing.

Given the wall to wall media about the ‘rise’ of the party, I think it says more than you realise.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Russ

I doubt we ever will.



Given the wall to wall media about the ‘rise’ of the party, I think it says more than you realise.

Don’t peak to early, Russ. Steady as you go.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don’t think you understand. Farage is looking to the next council elections with his newly selected candidates in a major push that will give the electorate more confidence to vote for them nationally in 2029.

The figures you have just quoted are irrelevant.

The party hasn’t started yet, and you are a party pooper.

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You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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Not true. They just need to build up their party member base in every constituency, which I think is entirely possible. Live and learn.

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I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

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This means nothing. The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.

Who selects these candidates - the local Reform UK Association?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

Correct for once, we've seen literally nothing yet

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

If they were going to defect, it's likely they would have done so by now.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.

I think that's a fair call, they're effectively a start-up Party without the infrastructure of the traditional parties.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If they were going to defect, it's likely they would have done so by now.

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I think that's a fair call, they're effectively a start-up Party without the infrastructure of the traditional parties.

Or the member voting rights for Officers and Candidates...

[ianch99]

Reform cannot be currently seen as a serious political party. Just look at its structure and who "owns" it. The current Leader spends most of his time in the US trying to be relevant to Trump and the Deputy Leader spends half of his time in Dubai where his partner has moved to. Of course both of these two are MP's whose constituents are all probably wondering WTF is going on.

As for Tice, there is a delicious irony over him, his partner and their stated views on immigrants

Dubai-based Oakeshott laments immigrants in London

Irony was laid to rest on TalkTV this week after Dubai-based Isabel Oakeshott hit out at the number of illegal immigrants that are reportedly residing in London.

The journalist, who has been living in the United Arab Emirates for a few months to escape Labour’s VAT raid on private schools, claimed to be able to identify illegal immigrants living in the UK capital when she returns to the motherland.

Her partner Richard Tice – the deputy leader of Reform UK – has also been splitting his time between Dubai and his constituency of Boston and Skegness, much like the party’s leader Nigel Farage, who is in between Clacton and the United States.

Others also pointed to the irony of Oakeshott living in an Arabic country where she doesn’t speak the language.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Reform cannot be currently seen as a serious political party. Just look at its structure and who "owns" it. The current Leader spends most of his time in the US trying to be relevant to Trump and the Deputy Leader spends half of his time in Dubai where his partner has moved to. Of course both of these two are MP's whose constituents are all probably wondering WTF is going on.

As for Tice, there is a delicious irony over him, his partner and their stated views on immigrants

Dubai-based Oakeshott laments immigrants in London

Apparently Nigel can't hold surgeries as it's not safe because of people with knives, it is however perfectly safe to spend all that time in America getting brushed off by donnie where they have guns

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Apparently Nigel can't hold surgeries as it's not safe because of people with knives, it is however perfectly safe to spend all that time in America getting brushed off by donnie where they have guns

Nigel’s statement was not congruent with actuality…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l47e86r39o

The leader of Reform UK has backtracked over comments he made about not being able to hold constituency surgeries in Clacton.

Nigel Farage MP said last month he was advised by the Speaker of the House of Commons office not to hold the meetings due to security.

But the Speaker's Office and parliamentary security team said they had "no recollection" of telling Farage he should not hold in-person surgeries, according to the Press Association.

The Clacton MP was asked who was "lying" at a press conference and replied: "The Speaker's office is always right".

Farage had told LBC in September that he had been advised not to accommodate the "old-style" physical meetings between MPs and constituents.
'Fundamental to democracy'

Mr Farage said: "Do I have an office in Clacton? Yes. Am I allowing the public to flow through the door with their knives in their pockets? No, no I'm not."

tbf, that was over four months ago - I’m sure he’s held a constituency surgery by now…

[Itshim]

Given that they are such a non starter, seem to generate a lot of flack

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Given that they are such a non starter, seem to generate a lot of flack

Has he held any yet?

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Given that they are such a non starter, seem to generate a lot of flack

Just that people don't like Grifters ... plus other assorted traits

[Russ]

Farage has been noticeably silent about his nephew who was convicted of upskirting.

Didn’t end up on the sex offender’s register though. Two-tier anyone?