President Trump 2.0

Originally Posted by ianch99

You missed out Canada! He wants to make it the '51st state'

Well it would make it easier to get to Greenland.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Isn't the real question what those that did vote Trump really think they voted for? They knew all about his lying, raping, etc. but this did not change their decision. So, they either ignored what he said he would do (tariffs, immigrants, cuts to state funding, etc.) because he is a liar so assumed he would not do these things or they believed he would do these things and ignored the fact that he lies.

Your ignorance of US politics in this post is mind blowing…………

You’re entitled to your view, but evidently you have no idea what you’re basing your view on.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Your ignorance of US politics in this post is mind blowing…………

You’re entitled to your view, but evidently you have no idea what you’re basing your view on.

I rarely read your posts because they are so toxic but why don't you try and engage with the debate in hand instead of just insulting people you disagree with?

You support Trump so please explain why his policies will make the poorer folk, the ones one that voted for him, better off when all the evidence suggests otherwise.

Start with:

- tariffs
- mass deportations
- massive cuts to federal departments
- massive tax cuts for the ultra rich & corporations

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I rarely read your posts because they are so toxic but why don't you try and engage with the debate in hand instead of just insulting people you disagree with?

I wasn’t insulting you.

However.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Isn't the real question what those that did vote Trump really think they voted for?

They believed the US was heading in the wrong direction.

Unlimited, undocumented, illegal immigration.

Fentanyl epidemic.

Gender/Trans Ideology.

Critical Race Theory

Wage depression.

They voted against all that and more.

They knew all about his lying, raping, etc.

They know he’s no angel, far from it.

But they could see the machine of government, media and judiciary working to shut him down, silence and preferably imprison him on suspect charges…..i.e, the “raping”

but this did not change their decision.

Because they saw through it.

So, they either ignored what he said he would do (tariffs, immigrants, cuts to state funding, etc.) because he is a liar so assumed he would not do these things or they believed he would do these things and ignored the fact that he lies.

No they voted for those things, and knew that he’s no worse a liar than Harris, Biden et Al, and is worth the risk.

You support Trump so please explain why his policies will make the poorer folk, the ones one that voted for him, better off when all the evidence suggests otherwise.

It’s not just about the economy, but regardless of all the “evidence”, people think they were better off under the previous Trump administration

Start with:

- tariffs

Potentially may protect US jobs, may have downsides, will have to see.

- mass deportations

Well I believe it was deporting illegal criminal immigrants, what’s bad about that?

- massive cuts to federal departments

Cutting back bloated government spending…..all good.

massive tax cuts for the ultra rich & corporations

Haven’t seen any details but cutting corporation tax, encouraging investment, removing barriers in regulation would all be good…………something Starmer and Reeves could take note of.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-...s-x-rcna185569

Tech billionaire Elon Musk faced accusations of censorship Friday from fellow conservatives after several prominent right-wing accounts who had criticized Musk’s views on immigration said that they subsequently lost access to premium features on Musk’s social media app, X.

At least 14 conservative accounts said late Thursday or Friday that X had revoked their blue verification badge, cutting them off from a variety of premium features, including the ability to monetize their accounts through subscriptions and advertising revenue-sharing, according to a review conducted by NBC News. Some accounts said the number of those affected was far higher.

The accounts were all still active Friday, but without access to monetization features; some of them said they worried about their ability to keep posting.

Some conservatives said they considered X’s actions to be a betrayal by Musk, who purchased the service then known as Twitter in 2022 in part because he said it had unfairly limited conservative speech. Musk has since called himself a free-expression advocate, even as he calls for jailing some of his critics.

Musk and X did not respond to requests for comment on Friday. But on Thursday night, about an hour before some conservatives started complaining about losing access to X’s premium features, Musk posted what he called “a reminder” on X. He wrote that the site’s algorithm automatically reduces the reach of a user if they’re frequently blocked or muted by other, credible users.

“If far more credible, verified subscriber accounts (not bots) mute/block your account compared to those who like your posts, your reach will decline significantly,” Musk posted.

But rather than satisfying people complaining about censorship, the post elicited even more accusations that Musk was shadowbanning his conservative critics, or reducing engagement on their posts without officially disclosing such actions to affected accounts.

I dont understand why anyone uses X anymore, just move off it to something else.

Network effect. It's harder to move because you need everyone else to move as well. I use X and Bluesky now as I slowly try to move to the latter but I am under no illusions that the same fate won't happen there as well eventually.

With Musk I am much more worried about him wanting to buy Wikipedia. He has shown he'll very much editorialise his platforms to suit him.

[thenry]

Trumps back at it he's already committing to reversing bills, offshore drilling ban sanctioned by Biden.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by thenry

Trumps back at it he's already committing to reversing bills, offshore drilling ban sanctioned by Biden.

Musk won't like that! He needs sale of Tesla to increase in the USA as Tesla is losing market share to the like of BYD in China.

[thenry]

Yeah better the devil you know like friendship

Gulf of America too no more México sea

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I rarely read your posts because they are so toxic but why don't you try and engage with the debate in hand instead of just insulting people you disagree with?

You support Trump so please explain why his policies will make the poorer folk, the ones one that voted for him, better off when all the evidence suggests otherwise.

Start with:

- tariffs
- mass deportations
- massive cuts to federal departments
- massive tax cuts for the ultra rich & corporations

More a question of why on earth would anyone chose to have Harris. Been saying this since Biden stood with her as his VP , making her a breath away from office

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Itshim

More a question of why on earth would anyone chose to have Harris. Been saying this since Biden stood with her as his VP , making her a breath away from office

A lot of Trump voters are now starting to realise that they were conned. More will follow as he will not do what he said .. big surprise there If you are poor and need healthcare or requires other benefits then the fun is only just beginning.




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We're back to the chaos era: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gzn48jwz2o

President-elect Donald Trump is showing no sign of letting up in his desire for the US to acquire Greenland and the Panama Canal, calling both critical to American national security.

Asked if he would rule out using military or economic force in order to take over the autonomous Danish territory or the Canal, he responded: "No, I can't assure you on either of those two.

"But I can say this, we need them for economic security," he told reporters during a wide-ranging news conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

Both Denmark and Panama have rejected any suggestion that they would give up territory.

I’ve seen some people online suggesting Trump doesn’t understand how the Mercator projection works and thinks Greenland is way, way bigger than it really is.

Originally Posted by Damien

We're back to the chaos era:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gzn48jwz2o

Just another Putin-inspired way of breaking up NATO - Article 5 could be invoked.