President Trump 2.0

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

We have to hope this man does not get back into power.


Remember this is the guy who suggested that injecting bleach into our body would get rid of Covid!

No he didn't

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ments-about-d/

and he didn't say "there were fine people on both sides" when talking about white supremacists.

And he didn't say there would be a bloodbath if he wasn't elected.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

We and them have to learn from this and previous elections and referendums and stop the rich and powerful manipulating them for their own ends

In the US, that could be applied to either side.

It wasn’t bleach, true…

From your link…

And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.

To summarize: Trump expressed interest in studying whether it’s possible to bring ultraviolet light "inside the body … through the skin or in some other way" and whether disinfectant could be used against the virus "by injection."

In an exchange with reporters, Trump said he was suggesting disinfectants and UV rays could be used on hands and that, when he spoke about injections, he was being "sarcastic."

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

No he didn't

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ments-about-d/

and he didn't say "there were fine people on both sides" when talking about white supremacists.

And he didn't say there would be a bloodbath if he wasn't elected.

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In the US, that could be applied to either side.

He said there would be a bloodbath for the whole country if he was not elected. His aids said later that he was referring to the automotive industry. I think most people applying critical thinking to this multi-convicted politician
would be sceptical of this backtracking.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...on-2024-03-17/

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

In the US, that could be applied to either side.

Take the red hat off, it cutting of the blood to your brain, my post specifically referenced we and they meaning the populations as a whole and the fact I actually said both sides later on in the post should really have clarified things but instead you decide to go with the old faithful both sides are at it defence

Timothy Mellon
REPUBLICAN
Railroad magnate and heir
Total large donations: $197M

Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein
REPUBLICAN
Shipping magnates
Total large donations: $139M

Miriam Adelson
REPUBLICAN
Physician and widow of businessman Sheldon Adelson
Total large donations: $136M

Elon Musk
REPUBLICAN
Billionaire technology executive
Total large donations: $132.2M

Kenneth Griffin
REPUBLICAN
Hedge fund manager
Total large donations: $103.7M

Jeff & Janine Yass
REPUBLICAN
Financier and education advocate
Total large donations: $96.2M

Paul Singer
REPUBLICAN
Hedge fund manager and activist investor
Total large donations: $63.4M

Michael Bloomberg
DEMOCRAT
Former mayor of New York City
Total large donations: $47.4M

Stephen & Christine Schwarzman
REPUBLICAN
Investor and philanthropist
Total large donations: $40M

Dustin Moskovitz
DEMOCRAT
Facebook co-founder
Total large donations: $38.9M

(Thanks Hugh)

Two Democrats sneaked in giving the magas the chance to legitimately say well the other side are doing it too whilst ignoring they're doing it much, much more but fine stop them all from donating as very few or none are doing it with honourable intentions. I said after the brexit vote I would be happy if it brought about a change in our politics where everyone's vote counted and the lobbying money was banned but instead of that it's been doubled down on at the expense of pretty much everyone else and it's worse in America, I bet they long for the days of Clinton, Obama and the Bushes, halcyon days compared to what they have now.

Anyone doubting that Trump expects to lose need look no further than this clip of a rally in Pennsylvania yesterday. In essence “I’m clever, I’ve been warning you what the other side will do, but now I won’t get the chance to fix it because they’ve rigged the election”.

In 2020 he waited until Wednesday morning when most of the results were in before claiming the election was stolen from him. This time he didn’t even get beyond the final weekend of the campaign.

Trump is losing, bigly. And he knows it. The strategy now is to delegitimise the result and unleash his pet domestic terrorists, the Proud Boys (whose colours he started wearing a week or so ago, when he began to be seen in a black and gold MAGA hat instead of the usual red and white).

https://x.com/phillipspobrien/status...56-Kgau3lzowJw

He was going on about them rigging it against him before he won in 2016. It's just his thing.

I would be wary of going by these vibes. I doubt they have internal polling that is dramatically different to the point that the campaigns privately know it's a done deal. If it were that certain we would have more evidence from state polls other than Iowa, there might be more evidence in the early voting or party registration....

All we have is that Iowa poll and some other signs that he is weaker amongst rural white men than in previous elections. Might be enough for him to pull a massive sulk on stage but we might be reading too much into it.

[thenry]

Piers Morgan reckons Trump is heading for victory, Boris Johnson features too

https://youtu.be/xP5aX6whDwU

Originally Posted by thenry

Piers Morgan reckons Trump is heading for victory, Boris Johnson features too

https://youtu.be/xP5aX6whDwU

If you bet on the opposite of anything Piers Morgan says, you’ll never go far wrong.

Background info

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0en401330jo

The billionaire (Elon Musk) announced earlier this month that he would randomly award a $1m prize to people in battleground states - Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and North Carolina - every day until 5 November.

These swing states suggest a particularly close contest between Trump and his Democratic rival for president, Kamala Harris.

Yet another winner was announced on Thursday. Musk's America PAC said Dacey from Fremont, North Carolina had won a $1m check.

To be eligible to win, the giveaway requires registered voters to release personal identifying information, like addresses and phone numbers. They are also required to sign a pledge that says they support the US Constitution

Latest

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...ay-2024-11-04/

PHILADELPHIA, Nov 4 (Reuters) - Elon Musk's pro-Trump group does not choose the winners of its $1 million-a-day giveaway to registered voters at random, but instead picks people who would be good spokespeople for its agenda, a lawyer for the billionaire said on Monday.

Musk lawyer Chris Gober was trying to persuade a Pennsylvania judge that the giveaway was not an "illegal lottery," as Philadelphia district attorney Lawrence Krasner alleged in a lawsuit seeking to block the contest ahead of Tuesday's U.S. presidential election.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It wasn’t bleach, true…

From your link…

And your point is?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

He said there would be a bloodbath for the whole country if he was not elected. His aids said later that he was referring to the automotive industry. I think most people applying critical thinking to this multi-convicted politician
would be sceptical of this backtracking.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...on-2024-03-17/

No, he said it would be a bloodbath for US automotive industry if he wasn’t elected, as China was going to build a big plant in Mexico.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

instead you decide to go with the old faithful both sides are at it defence

I would consider staging a coup against the sitting president, who was intending to run, and instilling the vice-President without a primary, as the new presidential candidate………….as manipulative.

Originally Posted by Pierre

And your point is?.

That proposing injecting disinfectant into your body is not a reasoned, or reasonable, proposal…

Well, I think we're at the point where there isn't going to be a big October surprise. It's been quite a boring run really. There was the drama when Harris replaced Biden, her surge that eventually equalled out to about 50/50 and it's stayed there.

I think we can be sure that Biden would have lost this but now it's all up in the air.

Post removed. Move on from irrelevant nit picking about what was said years ago.

Now we playing the waiting game as all polls are open

I guess it’ll be lunchtime tomorrow when we get a pretty good idea of what happened.