Uk Riots and Protests (2024)

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

We only have the one government that i can hold to account and that just happens to be labour,starmer isn't handling this well and cooper has no idea what she is doing ,4 weeks in and the country is an anarchists paradise

Nah, I think that's ridiculous.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Still don't see how this is the fault of Starmer or anyone. People being absolutely fruitcakes.

If words are enough to incite this: Farage, Musk, or anyone else then Starmer, Sunak, Johnson, May, Cameron, etc. all have their place in embedding the thought in the underclass that migration affects you: your housing, your access to the NHS, your access to the benefits system, your level of taxation, your access to essentially any public service.

If you spent 14 years saying there’s no magic money tree then gleefully announce the billions spent on asylum seeker hotels you knew what you were doing. You just hoped the people would never kick off or the police would be suitably resourced to quash it.

[Stephen]

Well it certainly wouldn't want me to go all grand Theft Auto on my town. It's not going to get anything done other than send me to jail and waste more money on extra policing and insurance payouts.

Rather counter productive, but then they don't seem the type to logically think about much.

[1andrew1]

The government must be pleased by this headline of a remorseful rioter jailed for three years.

‘I’m a fool and let my family down’, says rioter jailed for punching policeman
Derek Drummond, 58, is first person to receive a substantial prison sentence for taking part in the violence

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...lent-disorder/

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

We only have the one government that i can hold to account and that just happens to be labour,starmer isn't handling this well and cooper has no idea what she is doing ,4 weeks in and the country is an anarchists paradise

What would you have done differently? Held a garden party? Delegated the Cobra meetings to someone else?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The government must be pleased by this headline of a remorseful rioter jailed for three years.


you get a lighter sentence if you pretend to be remorsefull

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...lent-disorder/

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What would you have done differently? Held a garden party? Delegated the Cobra meetings to someone else?

If i was kier starmer i would resign and let a competant adult do the job.

[Stephen]

That's just a silly thing to say.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

If i was kier starmer i would resign and let a competant adult do the job.

Sir K is the most competent PM we've had for 14 years. Granted that isn't setting the bar high.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Sir K is the most competent PM we've had for 14 years. Granted that isn't setting the bar high.

We are up to our necks in anarchy after only 4 wonerfull weeks in power,that's not my idea of competance, still turn the page,dad was a toolmaker, full force of the law and all that other word salad.

oh yes i forgot " this is a government of service" a really bad service.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

If i was kier starmer i would resign and let a competant adult do the job.

Ok, if you were Prime Minister, what you do?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

We are up to our necks in anarchy after only 4 wonerfull weeks in power,that's not my idea of competance, still turn the page,dad was a toolmaker, full force of the law and all that other word salad.

oh yes i forgot " this is a government of service" a really bad service.

Its some right wing nutters that are rioting. Presumably fed up with their pathetic lives, that Brexit hasn't worked out and they lost an election. Not sure how a Govt only a few weeks old can be held responsible fo that. Do too little they'll be blamed, do too much ditto. The only ones to blame are the ones on the streets, and the previous administration of 14 years. The rioters and the situation are Daves/Boris'/ whatshername/Rishi's creation. You've got your country back, love it...

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well it certainly wouldn't want me to go all grand Theft Auto on my town. It's not going to get anything done other than send me to jail and waste more money on extra policing and insurance payouts.

Rather counter productive, but then they don't seem the type to logically think about much.

100% the average person wouldn’t. However for people to have reached the very highest levels of government and lack the awareness to know there’s morons out there and messaging matters would seriously call into question their observation skills.

The more straightforward answer is that they know, have always known, but thought it was a dice worth rolling to score a bounce in the polls.

It’s not counter productive to someone who has no investment in society anyway. Many of the soon to be convicted will have previous as long as your arm. They were always heading for another stint the only questions were when and what for.

Assuming they have the same thought process as the rest of us is flawed.

Zero evidence of the far-right so far in one of the rumoured London locations

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Also not hearing a lot from around the country? Maybe the sentences are making people think twice.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

Also not hearing a lot from around the country? Maybe the sentences are making people think twice.

Its a bit chilly tonight is the more likely reason.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Its a bit chilly tonight is the more likely reason.

I doubt they are either clever or organised, but optically it’d help their cause if “counter” protestors kicked off and it dominated the news cycle.

Those deliberately setting out to damage property could gain info on where the police prioritise resource by bluffing 100 things happening all at once.

More likely as you say it’s the weather. Or it’s midweek - some of them will have cash in hand jobs to do in the hidden economy tomorrow. Or signing on. Friday would be the next day I’d expect it to kick off if people haven’t moved on by then.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Zero evidence of the far-right so far in one of the rumoured London locations

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Also not hearing a lot from around the country? Maybe the sentences are making people think twice.

There were reports of a large mob in cleethorpes and similar reports in Grimsby but both turned out to be false